Woman as President????

[Andrea]

This morning on Good Morning America they were talking about Hilary Clinton and Laura Bush going head to head in 2008. I thought that was very interesting. Even though I AM a woman, I don't know how I feel about it. I would surely vote for Bush though. What do you guys think???

Am I gonna be sorry I asked? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[TreeStandBowHunter]

Yeah you are going to be sorry http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll give you 15 minutes to back out before I answer alright http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Certainly you know where this is going to go right?

[Andrea]

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Yeah you are going to be sorry http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll give you 15 minutes to back out before I answer alright http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Certainly you know where this is going to go right?

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Ya'll don't start bashing women now.
I know that the President has all sorts of advisors and military "high-ups" telling him what he should and shouldn't do. But could a woman really do the job??? I just don't know.

I can see this from both sides. Just thought I'd toss this one up in the air and let ya'll swat it around a while.


BE NICE!!????!!!!?? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Gator]

I don't know about a woman president, I just don't know. I will say there is NO WAY in H$$$ that I would vote for Hillary Clinton, nope ain't gonna happen!!

[Texan_Til_I_Die]

I've got no problem voting for a woman for president as long as she supports the same political goals that I support.

I always thought Margaret Thacher was an excellent Prime Minister.

[TreeStandBowHunter]

The problem is, if we say no, we will be labled as woman bashers. But in since you didn't back out http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif....

No. I don't think women should have leadership roles like that. Matter of fact, women should be home if anything. Now, I am not bashing women alright. If you are a woman or you have a wife that works, kudos for her. I wish them the best of luck. But I know in my family and in the wifes family, the woman always stayed home with the kids. I have a hard time dealing with a woman telling me what to do or making decisions dealing with our country. Just how I am. No offense to anyone in here. If you are successful or your wife is, hey, good for you and her.

Now before anyone says anything, I know there are women who could probably do a better job then men. I know Condi is doing a great job. That's all fine and dandy but do I think they should be there...No. JMO

BTW, I am seeing who else has the nerve to give an answer like that. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Oh yeah, I would still vote if it came down to it....definatley Laura Bush over Hillary.

[Andrea]

As far as staying home with the kids, I believe that is a good idea...if you can afford it. ( If your kids don't drive you insane.)
If we DID have a woman as President, she would have to be very tough.
I think it's weird that I feel the same way as you TSBH...I can't take orders from a woman either. I've had women as bosses and it drove me nuts!!!!

Nevertheless, I think it would be a very different world if a woman were President. Better or worse???
That depends on whether she's a democrat or a republican!!! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[TreeStandBowHunter]

http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif So what exactly are you saying.....are you for a woman president or not http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[oldksnarc]

I have worked for women supervisors and some of them have been good - some bad. I don't care who it is as long as they know what they're doing.

As for a woman president, again, if it's the right person and she knows what she's doing. I don't think Laura Bush has the training or background to be president - even with all the advisors. I don't think Hillary has the right stuff either. Besides being a lying, thieving B**** (IMO), she doesn't have the background to qualify her to be president.

[TreeStandBowHunter]

http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Oh man, you all are no fun. I thought the next time I would of looked at this thread, I would of had about 20 "Let's kill TSBH" replies http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[psejake16]

I dislike both. Laura is the lesser of the 2 evils. I would LOVE to have Condi Rice as pres. No joke, she links civi rights to the 2nd amendment, thats big! She is a STRONG supporter of the 2nd amendment and hunter's rights.

[stevebeilgard]

lets kill tsbh! (just so you feel better) anyway, women are no different than men in politics. some good, some bad, and some pure evil. i'd sure be willing to try something different. i'd give my vote to condi any day. in fact, she'd win in a heartbeat.

[wtnhunt]

No way Hillary should ever get elected, but she did somehow get the people of New York fooled into putting her in office. Dont think Laura Bush has any intentions.

On Condoleeza Rice, I would probably vote for her, and she might possibly be the first woman president.

[TreeStandBowHunter]

http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Hey, honest question, honest answer http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. You know you aren't overlooking me http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I would of said barefoot and pregnant but figured that would be over the line http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I love you guys, I just wish you all loved me as much as I love you http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Andrea]

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http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Hey, honest question, honest answer http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. You know you aren't overlooking me http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I wouild of said barefoot and pregnant but figured that would be over the line http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I love you guys, I just wish you all loved me as much as I love you http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Barefoot and pregnant?? Let's see, that brings up another scenario:

What if we did have a woman president and she gets pregnant? That would be weird I think. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[slugshooter]

LETS KILL TSBH!!!! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Now that's out of the way, I don't think I would have any problem voting/having a woman for President, it would all depend on the person. My decision between Laura Bush should be obvious, I didn't vote for her hubby,(second time around at least) so I don't really think I would vote for her. I'm not even positive that I would vote for Hillary if she ran. At this point I don't want to think about 2008, I'm still recovering from last year. Let's not jump the gun just yet.

[Big_Bubbles]

Heck No

[markyj987]

I think a lot of people are taking the idea of Laura Bush running for president way too seriously. It was something mentioned merely in jest by Lynne Cheney in an interview--she was responding to a question about Hilary Clinton running. I personally don't think that Laura Bush has any interest in being president.

Now that that's been straightened out, I would have no problem with a woman as president as long as she is on the right side of the issues. I think Condi Rice would make a great president, but can't help but wonder if she's too smart to deal with all of the pinheads in Washington.

[HuntingInMaine]

I have a question for all of you who don't want a woman for President...Just what is it about a woman that makes her, in your opinion, unfit to be President? I just don't see how a woman could screw things up any more than the men already have....

I am very interested to hear the logic behind your way of thinking....

[MadHuntinPastor]

Die TSBH Die!!!! JK http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif LOL

I actually agree with TSBH http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gifbut for slightly different reasons. I believe in equal rights, but at the same point we have seen the fall of the family because of couples seeking after the almighty $$$$$. We neglect our children or our spouse all for a career. We look for success at work, but fail miserable in our homes. Someone needs to raise our kids properly....male or female!! Someone needs to commit to the sanctity of marriage as much as they commit to striving for a raise.

(off soapbox)

So to answer the ??? - Laura Bush would get my vote if it happened. Do I think a women could do it???? YES.

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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Die TSBH Die!!!! JK http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif LOL



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You'll feel guilty if I die in a car accident today won't you http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I guess my point is I have been forunate to have my wife stay home the last 10 years. I would much rather her raise my children then some babysitter or day care,JMO. Now obviously we have to watch our lifestye though. We realize that we can't have EVERYTHING we want like a 50"TV when that 27" does just as fine....you get what I am saying? I guess it all boils down to what a family needs to survive. Me all I need is my family, job, my truck, a house, food, clothes and my hunting gear and I am set. If I wanted more than I guess I will send her out to get a job but I don't see that happening for a LONG time. Now that the kids are in school, I want her home when they leave for school and get home for school. That's my story and I am sticking to it http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[RangerClay]

<font color="red">You can joke about it all you want. We here in NY have to live with Hillary's BS every single day. God help this country if she ever gets elected </font>

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[bulldawg]

The issue I have with it...what if it comes down to crunch time...destroy a nation or be destroyed...will they have enough guts to crush thier opponent? I'm a little leary about that. Sometimes, some harsh talking will steer the opponent the other way. I just see a tough leader laughing in her face, if she tries to get tough with them. I just don't know... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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In fact, a man who does not permit his wife to earn money outside the home, that could ease the physical needs of his family is "worse than a non believer".

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Hey yewbowman...do you think though you could break that down shotgun style for me. I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed and you are speaking way above my level. Did you go to college for that or are you just gifted?

You know....thanks to some of you in this political room, I thought I was doing good things but now it doesn't seem like the outlook for ol TSBH is real good http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Washi]

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http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Hey, honest question, honest answer http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. You know you aren't overlooking me http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I wouild of said barefoot and pregnant but figured that would be over the line http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I love you guys, I just wish you all loved me as much as I love you http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Barefoot and pregnant?? Let's see, that brings up another scenario:

What if we did have a woman president and she gets pregnant? That would be weird I think. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Weird? That would be scary! Pregnant women are crazy. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I have been around enough of them to know that the world would end if a pregnant woman were in control.
Now a non-pregnant woman? Maybe. They can be a little on the unstable side too. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[HuntingInMaine]

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Pregnant women are crazy. I have been around enough of them to know that the world would end if a pregnant woman were in control.
Now a non-pregnant woman? Maybe. They can be a little on the unstable side too.

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Nothing has been stated here that can't be said for men also. TSBH has told us why he doesn't want his wife to run for President, but still no reason why any other woman can't do it.

It is really disappointing to find so many people in one place that feel I and other women are weaker and some how less able because aren't male.

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The issue I have with it...what if it comes down to crunch time...destroy a nation or be destroyed...will they have enough guts to crush thier opponent? I'm a little leary about that. Sometimes, some harsh talking will steer the opponent the other way. I just see a tough leader laughing in her face, if she tries to get tough with them. I just don't know...


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I don't see the male politicians being tough with other countries. How long did we threaten Iraq and let them know we were would be invading? I think any female who runs for President would already be a lot more aggressive than a man just because it would be necessary to have gotten that far in a political career. And let's not forget, **** hath no fury like a woman scorned...

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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Nothing has been stated here that can't be said for men also. TSBH has told us why he doesn't want his wife to run for President, but still no reason why any other woman can't do it.

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Because they didn't ask "Why"....that's why!

But in since you insist, women fall apart to easy. Stress boggles their mind and they get all crazy and disconbobulated. Women might be good at decision making, heck anybody can do that but most women can't handle stress that good. You have some hard dogs out there...as shown in Iraq...but the majority of them fall apart under stress. See, you should't of asked "Why". Now let me guess, your going to fly off the handle and come back with a bunch of words about how I am a woman basher. Let me save you some time, I am http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I love my woman, she is a good ol fashioned woman, and she is perfect right where she is at....HOME. Woman are always trying to get ahead of men. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Andrea]

Okay...most if not all of the Hollywood actors aren't worth spitting on...but I've seen a few actresses who could pass for a woman President just based on her acting skills.

Who would make a good one??

1. Glenn Close
2. Alfre Woodard
3. and the meanest one out there but a political nightmare: Janine Garafolo. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Not sure about spelling.
Garafolo would NEVER get my vote because she's the epitome of left-wing liberalism, but she does appear to be the type that would not back down on anything.

[HuntingInMaine]

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Because they didn't ask "Why"....that's why!


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I did ask why you thought this way, maybe you just missed the post.

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Now let me guess, your going to fly off the handle and come back with a bunch of words about how I am a woman basher. Let me save you some time, I am

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Nope, not going to fly off the handle because this way of thinking is just what I expected from you. I am not angry at you, just feel a little sorry for you. Maybe you should think seriously about what yewbowman has written.

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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Treestand, I don't think you are a "woman basher" Thanks boss , but rather just insecure Nope...very secure about myself and family . I notice that you are in the military, and in so being, you are probably threatened by female superiors Your right, I can't stand them. Nothing is worse than a woman with a screachy voice yelling out commands who can't run 3 miles without dropping like a bad habit , therefore you have developed this insecurity, because in reality you are threatened by females who are perhaps smarter Definatley , more dutiful I doubt it , and advanced than you are Oh I am advanced but yes unfortunately some are more advanced. Alot of them get there by favors . This is also very common in police, and corporate fields. Thanks for the info

This is very typical among men who base achievement on worldly position. However, when we learn to recognize the work given to women by God as being a Godly commission, we then can rest secure in our own manhood, knowing that we compete not with women, but rather women simply compliment us.

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Dude, that's pretty deep. Nonetheless, why do you feel the need to defend them. We have enough in here that can defend themselves. Are you scared to speak your mind in here http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...no joking, nevermind. Look man, I am a warfighter and a Marine Leader. That's what I do. My wife is a stay at home mom and that's where she needs to be and she knows that and that's what she does.

If you havn't figured it out by now, you cannot have an intelligent conversation with me because I have little paitence for things like worrying about a woman wanting to be put in decision making jobs and a man trying to defend that. I only do one-way conversations most of the time. Just ignore me and move on to the next guy. Pick on Slugshooter or something http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The question was asked, I answered it. I didn't want to say half the things I did in here but a selected few beat it out of me. See I could get all crazy here and tell people to pound sand but my shrink is teaching me how to relax and just brush things off my shoulder.

In ending, what your saying is that I am going to **** because I think a woman should be at home. Isin't that what you were pretty much saying in the other post. Are you like a angel or something that you know all this. I thought only God decided who went to ****. You also said something being worse than a non-believer? Well if that's the case then it sure don't look good for the home team then does it http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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Because they didn't ask "Why"....that's why!


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I did ask why you thought this way, maybe you just missed the post.

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Now let me guess, your going to fly off the handle and come back with a bunch of words about how I am a woman basher. Let me save you some time, I am

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Nope, not going to fly off the handle because this way of thinking is just what I expected from you. I am not angry at you, just feel a little sorry for you. Maybe you should think seriously about what yewbowman has written.

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No the original post was [ QUOTE ]
This morning on Good Morning America they were talking about Hilary Clinton and Laura Bush going head to head in 2008. I thought that was very interesting. Even though I AM a woman, I don't know how I feel about it. I would surely vote for Bush though. What do you guys think???


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Tell me where in there that it asks "Why" you think that.

Moving on....You don't know what to expect from me because I change everyday. I like to keep people on their toes...like I am you http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. You feel sorry for me http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifLMBO, please don't feel sorry for me. There are enough other people out there that you should feel sorry for. Me, I require no sympathy from anyone. Just wake me up on the right side of the bed, feed me and leave me alone for the rest of the day http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Hey huntin girl, you didn't read my 1st reply to this thread http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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TSB, I think you made my point much better than I did.

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Yeah, well I think you need to chill out...how about that. I can really make some points if you want me too. Maybe if you wouldn't come in here trying to sound like a angel from the outfield, I wouldn't get so beside myself. So tell me, now that you have my attention, what are you implying?


Steve...I am in control of myself, don't worry http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I am paying my shrink extra money http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Andrea]

<font color="red">I saw it TSBH. (Note my reply) http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif </font> http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[ QUOTE ]
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Yeah you are going to be sorry http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll give you 15 minutes to back out before I answer alright http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Certainly you know where this is going to go right?

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Ya'll don't start bashing women now.
I know that the President has all sorts of advisors and military "high-ups" telling him what he should and shouldn't do. But could a woman really do the job??? I just don't know.

I can see this from both sides. Just thought I'd toss this one up in the air and let ya'll swat it around a while.


BE NICE!!????!!!!?? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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[Mathews XT Man]

Only if God has chosen a women to lead or change a country, then I got no prob. (Esther comes to mind)...otherwise I believe most women are too emotional to do the job. Women never was created for leadership, and I would not vote for one if a qualified man was running....yewbow......you stated you have not voted in years??? Thats not based on any biblical principal I know of, in fact it goes agianst it. God fully expects you to do your part in electing good christian men and women to office. TSB....your as good as gone buddy....as soon as we can get President Hillarry to sign a presidential order to get your right wing butt off here!!...(WOW, why did I have the urge to barf!!???)

[TreeStandBowHunter]

http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif When I first seen that man, WHOA http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I must not entertain this anymore though. I said what I had to say and Buckee is right, there comes a time when everyone already voiced their opinion and now it just get's into bickering back and forth. I am right, I know I am right so we will leave it at that http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Yewbowleman is wrong, he knows he is wrong and we will leave it at that http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

You all gotta admit though, we milk this stuff http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[slugshooter]

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http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif When I first seen that man, WHOA http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I must not entertain this anymore though. I said what I had to say and Buckee is right, there comes a time when everyone already voiced their opinion and now it just get's into bickering back and forth. I am right, I know I am right so we will leave it at that http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Yewbowleman is wrong, he knows he is wrong and we will leave it at that http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

You all gotta admit though, we milk this stuff http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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NONONONONO MIKE, You got it all wrong. The both of you are wrong and I am right. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[bulldawg]

Mike, you're going about this shrink business the wrong way....mine pays me to stay away... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[HarvDog]

I'm not sure how I feel about a woman being President but I would find it funny referring to her husband as the "first man". http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[markyj987]

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The issue I have with it...what if it comes down to crunch time...destroy a nation or be destroyed...will they have enough guts to crush thier opponent? I'm a little leary about that. Sometimes, some harsh talking will steer the opponent the other way. I just see a tough leader laughing in her face, if she tries to get tough with them. I just don't know... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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bulldawg, I understand what you're saying here, but really don't think that this kind of weakness is only gender-based. The American people generally sniff out and vote against the militarily weaker opponent. Walter Mondale, John Kerry, Jimmy Carter, and Michael Dukakis come to mind. My mother would be a tougher leader than them!

Sometimes a weak leader will slip through like Carter in 76 or Bill Clinton. Fortunately, Carter was gone in 4 years and Clinton was kept in check by the Republican House. Not only that, but to his credit, Clinton could indeed "talk tough." Granted, bombing an aspirin factory isn't a good display of military strength...but he did talk a good game, which is half the battle.

[wtnhunt]

Heard Bill Clinton on an excerpt from a tv interview to flat out deny that Hillary has any interest in running for the presidency in 2008. He said she is focussing on being re-elected.

Of course I dont believe anything Clinton says.

[Finn]

Condi, yes...Liz Dole, yes....

Hillary, O my god, NO

[SaskMan]

[ParrotHead]

From some of the comments I'm not real sure if we're trying to elect a woman or God to be President.

I didn't read every thread but got the jist of things and I'll go out on a limb and be labled as whatever - No, I'll never vote for a woman for President. That's not saying there will never be one - just saying I won't vote for one - not even Condi or Laura.

[robk]

first we have bill the cigar king doing his time inthe whitehouse and then you want to know about hillary fols she tried to run thwe whitehouse and the president as first lady and it sucked.
if you figure it out we are in much better hands with lara bush who at least isn't an **** to the help and the security staff.
if you ask them you will know whom they would vote for and hillary i wish i had p----s isn't the rigth oneto vote for lol
rob k

[buckee]

If Nancy Grace runs for president, I'd vote for her http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[slugshooter]

I know this should probably be in a completely different thread, but since most everyone seems to be against a female president, what does everyone think about a black president, male or female, of course, if you voted for Condi you'd be getting two for the price of one. I will tell you one thing, I would vote for Colin Powell faster than most anyone else that comes to mind, even over John Kerry, but not John Edwards. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[bulldawg]

Colin Powell would probably get a vote from me too, slugshooter.
Ruby, I'm not saying that a woman can't get aggressive, but alot of woman get scared, and can't handle themselves in real bad situations. Don't get me wrong, there are some pretty tough women out there. But, there are also some cutthroat, take your head off and hand it to you leaders in some of these foreign countries. Just to act tough sometimes isn't enough. A woman has a tough time staying in someones face when the wolf calls her bluff, so to speak. Good job with the stick..lol. If those 2 guys wanted you bad enough, you would have had to use it for sure though. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[BuckMaster058]

JMO but it doesn't matter to me if a man or woman winds up as pres. they all lie, cheat, and steal to get into office anyway. And what I am trying to say is that they tell you what you want to hear and when they get into office they do nothing.