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HarvDog
06-27-2005, 10:54 AM
U.S. Supreme Court rules Ten Commandments displays are not allowed at courthouses.

Full Story (http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/27/scotus.commandments.ap/index.html)

And so goes the moral decline of our nation. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Andrea
06-27-2005, 10:59 AM
What's new. Welcome to America. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

buckee
06-27-2005, 11:47 AM
Sad day for America, and the world. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

DWC
06-27-2005, 11:55 AM
did the chief justice step down ?

HarvDog
06-27-2005, 11:59 AM
Here's consistency for you... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Following ruling barring Ten Commandments displays in courthouses, Supreme Court rules such displays are allowed at state capitols.

oldksnarc
06-27-2005, 06:10 PM
Does that mean they're going to take the several paintings and sculptures of the 10 Commandments out of their own Supreme Court Building? If they do, wouldn't that be defacing a national monument?

HarvDog
06-27-2005, 07:35 PM
Hey...good point!

preacherman
06-27-2005, 09:06 PM
It is indeed a great travesty for these things to happen............I heard the news today........just glad that the monument is able to stay in Texas!

Mathews XT Man
06-27-2005, 09:08 PM
The Judges decisions are Unconstitutional according to the First Amendment.

slugshooter
06-27-2005, 10:15 PM
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Does that mean they're going to take the several paintings and sculptures of the 10 Commandments out of their own Supreme Court Building? If they do, wouldn't that be defacing a national monument?

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Nope, the Ten Commandments stay in the Supreme Court and they can stay in other court houses as well, as long as it is placed within a historical context and not separately which could be construed as an avocation of a religious belief, which is what this whole thing has centered around.

I am sure we will all wake up tomorrow with utter chaos and anarchy around us because of this.

slugshooter
06-27-2005, 10:18 PM
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The Judges decisions are Unconstitutional according to the First Amendment.

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Hows that?? It is against the First Amendment for the government to promote a specific religious belief, which is what a solitary display of the Ten Commandments does, besides, Christians,(which has been said on here before), are not bound by Old Testament law, which is what the Ten Commandments are. Don't get me wrong, I believe in the Ten Commandments, but it is not the governments job to promote religion, if it were, we would be living in a theocracy. (ie. Iran)

markyj987
06-28-2005, 05:48 AM
The fact that these cases even are heard by ANY court, much less the Supreme Court, is a shame. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court in Everson v. Board of Education (1947) based their opinion by quoting Thomas Jefferson completely out of context.

The wall of separation Jefferson wrote about in no way resembles the Supreme Court decision. The Court, as well as the ACLU opinion on the meaning of "wall of separation" and the establishment clause are at very least, a distortion of Jefferson's intentions--and at worst, a blatant lie.

Every time I see one of these cases even GET to the court, it makes me angry because there's NO legal basis for them at all--as the framers' intentions were CLEAR.

The Ten Commandments hanging in a courthouse, and calling that a violation of church and state separation is absolutely ridiculous. In no way (except in cases where tax dollars paid for them) could any logical person see those as government endorsement.

Each time the court refers to violation of the establishment clause, it makes me sick to my stomach. Generally that means that they're instead restricting rights instead of protecting them--as well as proving their absolute historical ignorance.

wtnhunt
06-28-2005, 06:25 AM
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The Judges decisions are Unconstitutional according to the First Amendment.

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Have to agree, removal of the commandments is an infringement on our rights. Displaying the commandments in a courtroom is not promoting them.

Just wonder how long before the aclu goes after the use of a Bible in taking an oath in court.

slugshooter
06-28-2005, 10:56 AM
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Just wonder how long before the aclu goes after the use of a Bible in taking an oath in court.

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can't one already refuse to place their hand on the bible if they so choose?

preacherman
06-28-2005, 11:13 AM
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Just wonder how long before the aclu goes after the use of a Bible in taking an oath in court.

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can't one already refuse to place their hand on the bible if they so choose?

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yes, if a person so chooses, they can refuse the right to place their hand on the Bible.

Texan_Til_I_Die
06-30-2005, 06:16 PM
I found this quote regarding the Supreme Court ruling to be very fitting:

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"The Supreme Court's ruling against posting the Ten Commandments in a Kentucky courthouse is a political travesty based on a big lie, a total falsehood - the so-called 'separation of church and state.' This lie has been spread by theophobic atheists, neo-pagan fascists, radical liberals, socialists, Marxists, anti-Christian bigots, sexual perverts, Christophobic politicians and journalists, and other such people who wish to obliterate the European Christian foundation on which America was built. Many of them overtly or secretly wish to deprive Christian citizens of their rights and privileges under the Constitution, which can be shown historically to be a Christian document."

- Tom Snyder of the Mars Hill Institute of Knowledge


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HarvDog
07-01-2005, 09:06 AM
Sounds like they're starting to succeed as well. We need to rise up against this!