THE GREAT COLORADO ELK HUNT

[stevebeilgard]

THE GREAT COLORADO ELK HUNT

where? the mountains of colorado. although the exact spot has not been selected yet, i'm favoring the taylor reservoir area just west of buena vista, and about 25 miles north of gunnison. folks, this is elk country! camp will be about the 9,000' level, with elk both higher and lower. both lake and stream fishing will be campside, or a short walk away.

when? that's up to you folks. we'll take a poll and the majority wins. for archery, the season starts august 26. for rifle, the season is oct. 21-29. in either season, camp will be set up 2 days prior, and will be taken down after the hunt, which is 7 days of hunting. hunters can come and go as they please.

how to get there? this is a prime chance for r.t. forum members to get together geographically, and drive on out together on a share expense basis. a perfet scenario would be for the guy with a truck or suburban to get 2 or 3 others, and head to colorado. throw the camping gear in the trailer with the 4 wheelers, put the cruise on, and enjoy. everyone shares the costs. want to fly? come on out. i'll have once a day pickup service from the colorado springs airport. cost is gas only, shared by the number of riders in the truck. it's about 3 hours into camp from the airport.

the camp? just a spot to park motor homes, tents, or what have you. i use canvas tents. bring what you want. my persoal site will have about 6 tents, each with a heater. the larger tent will be "the pro's nest", where you can talk with some of the pro's who may attend. there will also be some moderators there. just who, we won't say. pot luck, guys.

another feature i'll offer, on a need basis, is tent space. those flying will need a spot of ground to crash on. bring your own sleeping bag and whatever. i'll also have a tent strictly for the ladies, should there be any coming.

this is a do it yourself hunt and camp, fully self guided. very low cost. for those flying, i think i can talk my wife into making us some pre-cooked meals like stews, meat loaf, etc. so, you can eat for what i expect to be about $7.00 a dinner. hopefully we'll get some elk steaks the first day! but, if you fly, you won't go hungry. (camp cook wanted... no pay, cold working conditions, must cut wood for the stove, abusive clientele... any persons dream. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

costs: elk license is $488., mule deer are $293., 5 day fishing is $21.00. go to the colorado division wildlife web site at www.wildlife.state.co.us (http://www.wildlife.state.co.us) and find out all the details.

there will be horses for rent should anyone want one. i prefer to walk. i'll also have a full list of stuff to bring as the time gets closer.

i want this to be a good, friendly, christian camp. having a drink or 2 is fine, but no drunks please. swearing will be only at me, and kept in low tones. if the ladies come to hunt, remember that they came to hunt. a clean, respectful camp is all i ask.

scott will keep this post up top for 45 days. we want to hear from you! are you interested? want to proceed? or, is this just another dumb idea? we'll see what happens and what response we get in that 45 days, and go from there. i'm open to any and all suggestions, criticisms, ideas, etc. feel free to pm me or respond here.
now the ball is in your court! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

steve beilgard

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[VermontHunter]

Sure isn't a dumb idea in my book.... Man Steve you and Scott just keep outdoing yourselves.....

Just wish I could afford such a trip, retail work just doesn't give that luxury.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif... Especially if I want to get a hunt in with ya for a Antelope... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif,, that hopefully soon will come true... Just once I would love to hunt out of state and have some fun... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

But Im sure you will get great responses to this idea, because it sure is one heck of a deal, and oppertunity to get to meet great people....

Thanks to you and Scott, for thinking of the great people that visit and help each other out in this great forum.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif,, my hat goe's off to both of you... and especially to your lovely wife for putting up with ya..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[sureshot]

might just have to save up some of my coyote hides to make the trip lol!! would be a blast!!

[USAFbowhunter]

I would love to try and make it up there for a week and try my luck on some mule deer or elk with my bow.

[elkoholic]

What an incredible opportunity for those who have never hunted the elusive wapiti or the noble muley. If indeed there will be some "pros" there to offer advise and guidance, what more could one ask for? Just the camaraderie of fellow hunters (imagine the stories that will be told) in the majestic setting of the Rockies would be well worth the price of the license. I will try to fit it into my plans for the coming year, all depending on my luck in several drawings for various limited tags here in Montana and Utah. I would favor the archery season if it extends into the heat of the rut, but anytime hunting is a good time. For those of you thinking you will put it off until you can afford it, you may never be able to "afford" it, but then again you may not be able to afford missing the experience. Next year may never come, let's go hunting this year!

[VtBowhunter]

I have some serious money coming in in the next couple weeks. I'll have to see what I can do. A bowhunt for Elk is one of my top 3 dream hunts.

[Chrud]

Sounds like an awesome idea! Not sure if I could make it this year though, still pretty well focused on tech school. Hopefully the will be a yearly event.

[AJ]

People interested in this have to realize that gun season tags application deadline is in April. You foot the bill for the tag in advance. If you are drawn, they send you a tag.

You must have a hunters safety card to get Colorado license. This goes for everyone, not just kids, if you don't have one you have to take a hunters safety class before the season.

Are there any preference points needed for gun season tags? What zone is this?

[buckee]

It would be fun just to be there. Interesting proposition for sure.
hunters safety card is something I don't have. I'm still protesting the need to take my hunter's ed/safety course and/or challenge the test (for a fee of course) all over again, since these new ridiculous gun laws came out. I took my hunter's safety course when I was 15 years old, and don't see why I, after 40 years of hunting, need to take it again. I do have my POL (Possession Only Permit) http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Sounds like it might be a bit of a hassle and a bit pricey for some of us Canucks to hunt there, but just being there and sharing the experience with others would be a hoot. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Cool idea for sure.

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Great Idea,

Bull elk tags for Unit 55 ofColorado's 2nd rifle season, ( the dates of the proposed hunt) are over the counter and unlimited in number. You do not need to apply for a OTC bull license, as long as you buy it before opening day you are set. If you would prefere better odds of tagging out you could apply for a cow elk tag, $253 last year, and should draw with no preference points. During any of Colorado's rifle seasons you may hunt with the legal weapon of your choice (rifle, bow, blackpowder). 55 is a pretty good elk unit.

If you are wanting to hunt deer you will need a pile of preference points to draw a mule deer. Last year there were 170 mule deer buck tags for unit 55 during 2nd rifle and 802 applicants of which 40% were available to non residents. It will be less in 2006. Here is a link to CDOW's big game page. If you want to click on statistics you can visit 'hunt recaps' and figure out the preference points. They are not easy to figure out. http://wildlife.state.co.us/hunt/BigGame/

BeanMan

[stevebeilgard]

hunter safety card is required for those born after 1949. you're safe, steve. lol

[billkay]

Sounds great! I think I may be able to get there. I would probably prefer the gun season over bow. Tried the archery route in New Mex a couple years ago and got my butt handed to me.

[Griz]

Awesome!
Sounds like a great idea and fun to.
I would want to bowhunt. That's been my dream for along time. I'll have to see what I can do.

As far as having the hunters safety card. I took the coarse many moons ago but I'd be dogged if I know where it's at. Heck I was a kid back then.lol
Does this mean I would have to take it again or can I get a copy of it somewhere?

[buckee]

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hunter safety card is required for those born after 1949. you're safe, steve. lol



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I was born in 1953 Steve http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Valkrie1357]

It is a little to soon for me &amp; my Checkbook
after my Bear Trip in 05 &amp; inpending Taxidermy Balance. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
That is one of the Hunts I want to do though.
I even have a cousin that Lives in Gunnison.

FYI
I think in Colorado You Have to have
THE ORIGINAL Hunter Safety Certificate. No Copies. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
In IA, they won't reissue one if you have Lost it. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I retook the Class Last Year with My 22 Year old Daughter,
even though I had taken it over 40 years ago. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Didn't know if I would need it to Bear Hunt In Canada, so I Just retook it. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
A Good Thing to Have &amp; the Refresher doesn't hurt anyone. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Plus get to meet new People at the Class possibly. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Buckee
I don't Make the Year Cut Off either, 1957 for Me http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

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[stevebeilgard]

sorry, steve. you looked older from your typing....lol

[buckee]

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sorry, steve. you looked older from your typing....lol

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[Valkrie1357]

Too Many Steve's Around Here

Valkrie1357 / (Stephen) http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif


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[ricfirefighter]

not sure if i would hunt i should draw archery elk here at home but would love to show up and meet everybody

[stevebeilgard]

now THAT'S the spirit, ric. just showing up and camping for a day or a week, visiting, and meeting the folks on the forum. that's why i'll be there. of course, i'll have a fly rod, and maybe my gun, but it's the visiting i'll enjoy the most. just a great rt get together, with some hunting as an option.

[VermontHunter]

Now there would be a sight to behold... Luke with a Fly Rod.. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I can just picture that first cast and ripping some poor souls trousers off..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Gator]

For the rifle hunt, do you have to be drawn, or can you buy over the counter tags? Will definately give this some thought though. Will have to figure out how much it will cost all together.

[Andrea]

This sounds great. I'm all for it. Would love to take an elk with my rifle. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[oo_buck]

Sounds very good.....

Definitely interested....

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Gator,

Rifle Elk 2nd seaason is over the counter. Deer is by draw only. Archery is OTC also.

Beanman

[Gator]

Thanks beanman, Hmmm, that stirs the pot even more......

[stevebeilgard]

controll yourself, luke. the "trousers off" comment is more of a visual than i can handle..... lol

[AaronS]

This would be a dream hunt and an awesome time back at camp. I'm not sure if I'll be able to swing it this year, but will be checking into it. I would prefer bow hunting but would gladly do whatever worked best for the majority. If it did work out, maybe oo_buck and I could ride out together.

[Gator]

Question on License fees. Does the $488 include license AND tag, or are these bought separate?

[MUDRUNNER]

Man,that sure sounds like a great time!I've always wanted to do an elk hunt.I didn't know you could get non-resident tags otc.That's great.Is that for the second rifle season only?

If I have my hunters education card issued by Illinois, is that enough to get a liscence,or is there some type of federal card I need?

Can you tag a cow with a bull elk tag or is that for a bull only?

Is this all public ground and are a.t.v.'s allowed for game removal?

It sounds great,but I'm not sure what to expect.I would be happy bagging a cow.I don't have a rifle,but that might give me a reason to get one.A bow hunt would be great to.
Does Colorado have a % let-off rule for archery equipment?

[TreeWalker]

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If I have my hunters education card issued by Illinois, is that enough to get a liscence,or is there some type of federal card I need?


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I'm wondering this too......is my ND hunter's safety certificate good, or do I need to take the course from Colorado ??

[TreeWalker]

Also, ideal dates for me would be anywhere August 25th -September 7th for the Archery, and October 20th-November 2nd for the rifle hunt

Haven't decided which I would prefer, but am leaning towards possibly Archery......

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Gator,

Last years price of $488 includes everything you need.

Mudrunner,

OTC tags are available for Archery (archery tags are either sex), 2nd and 3rd rifles Seasons. The rifle tags are Bull only. (Mostly) You could apply for a cow tag in any of those seasons. Muzzleoader, 1st Rifle, and 4th rifle are tags you would have to apply for. You would have a good chance of drawing whatever tag you wanted. I bought a leftover Either Sex elk tag (and filled it with a 6x5 Bull) for 4th rifle last fall after work got in the way of my Blackpowder hunt. Most, but not all of the land is public. You may not take a 4 wheeler off of any designated trail. The new rules for forest service land this year say if it is not posted as open then it is off limits. IMHO it is a good rule. You will need a packframe or a crew of gorillas' to drag one out. Mine took five trips of 4 miles RT each to get my bull out. Thankfully I have friends who helped. My Wife even packed a front quarter out and she is 41.

good luck

Beanman

[billkay]

The Colo. web site has all the specifics regarding what is acceptable for Hunters Ed.

[MUDRUNNER]

It looks like any state issued hunter safety card is acceptable.
It looks like the let-off rule for a bow is 80%,so I should be good there too.And if I read it right I can even use my 12 gauge slug gun during rifle season if I didn't want to buy a rifle.This sure is awefull tempting! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Thanks for the info Beanman!

[Gator]

Thanks angain Beanman, but this just makes it that much more tempting

[Mathews XT Man]

Need to know more like what mudrunner asked?? ......interested..??? YES!!! would depend on how my harvesting season goes...for me it would be last minute decision if I go or not

[VermontHunter]

Man if I could afford the air fair and the license,, I'd be there in a heartbeat just to push Steve in the water..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif (j/k)

Man I need a better job...... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif,, I'd love to have it, with the bow... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[silvertip_co]

The guys from BO have been doing this kind of meet for two yrs ( we call it Elkatraz ) and are working on one for this year also. I have attended once and its great hunting and great fun. Let me know more details and I'll try to make it also.

[Gator]

Is there a minimum Arrow weight that we have to abide by, like the 400gr minimum in Wy?

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Gator,

Just looked at the regs pamphlet, there is no mention of minimum arrow weight. It does say that broadheads must be at least 7/8" with two cutting edges and the blade must be in the same plane for the entire length of blade.

Cheers,

BeanMan

[Gator]

You da man Beanman!!

Now what the heck does it mean by "in the same plane"? Will Muzzy 4-Blade work?

[SRA]

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If it did work out, maybe oo_buck and I could ride out together.

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http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif........ are you delirious????? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[AaronS]

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If it did work out, maybe oo_buck and I could ride out together.

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http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif........ are you delirious????? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Why, does he have a problem with rear emissions? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

It's not very likely that I can swing it this year anyway. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[rifleman25]

Guys Steve is a hoot to have around camp. He came and spent a week guiding handicapped hunters with me in early December. I am planning on returning the favor by guiding some of the same group on a speedgoat hunt with him. I am looking foreward to this trip. I have a few elk under my belt and must say they are second only to axis deer as far as table fare goes. I will be leaving for this hunt from Eastern Nebraska. I have room for 2-3 hunters or atendees I should say to ride along. I have a new 2005 chevy 3/4 ton crew cab. I will also be taking two horses in a 16 foot trailor, so there will be ample room for everyones stuff. Both can be used a saddle horses but once something hits the ground I'm sure one will become a pack animal for the time being. I also own a pair of 14x16 wall tents with heaters and will have ample room for some folks to stay as long as those who do share in the work of setting them up an taking them down as well as keeping them orderly inside and cutting some fire wood. My passion lies in hunting western big game and steve is just the one you want along your first time out. We spoke in length about this on the phone last nite and I decided this would be a great hunt. I would also like to take a scouting trip into this area in july or august and anyone along the way is more than welcome to go or if someone from out that way wants to met up that too would be great. If you are planning on going and live near me or somewhere out east I would be glad to have you ride along. Even if you are coming from western SD or somewhere I could pick you up in southern wyoming. If your interested please let me know I really would like to find someone to ride along. Please send me a PM if this interests you.

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Gator,

I think same plane means the blades have to be straight, there was a brand a few years back that had a spiral blade. Your Muzzy's would be fine.

BM

[ricfirefighter]

rifleman25 i will make sure i through a tow rope in mine so when the chevy breaks down my ford can pull you the rest of the way lol

[rifleman25]

I am planning on trading it for a power stroke this summer but incase that doesn't happen I mentioned what I have. I had a weak moment this summer when they had the employee discount thing goin on. My dad tells me the same thing. I was born and raised ford.

[buckee]

Some of you guys who might be driving out, could maybe bring some 3D targets with you, and set up a little 3D course for some relaxation and practice.

[stevebeilgard]

well, so far i feel 6 for archery, and 6 for rifle, and a few who never gave any preference. we'll let this go on for another month or so, and see what happens. i'm actually surprised that so few have responded. this will be a hunt to remember.
what a whimp, rileman. cowering down to firefighters boast of pulling you out. i'll put my duramax against your powerstroke any day..... lol

[huntinsonovagun]

I have this in my mind, but I will be starting school around mid August, so that kinda limits me....

Pick a date and I'll see what I can do. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Addct2hntng]

very interesting going to do some thinking http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[silvertip_co]

I live in Colorado, I'll see how/when you set it up and try to make it if it doesn't interfere with Elkatraz3. I have an extra week vacation this year so I can hunt more.

[rifleman25]

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well, so far i feel 6 for archery, and 6 for rifle, and a few who never gave any preference. we'll let this go on for another month or so, and see what happens. i'm actually surprised that so few have responded. this will be a hunt to remember.
what a whimp, rileman. cowering down to firefighters boast of pulling you out. i'll put my duramax against your powerstroke any day..... lol

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Neither of us needed a tow in Nebraska did we? As a matter of fact The day before you arrived I had to go pull Mike S's Ford out where you and I started with the spotting scopes when you showed up. You might remember he and I both gave and recieved a little ribbing over that one.

[stevebeilgard]

i remember, brian. just a joke. i don't see a nickel's difference in ford, chevy, or dodge. i even have a foreign car in my mix.

[rifleman25]

I know.

[Team Realtree]

You guys better sign on here. I'm planning on being there and want to meet and spend some time with many of you. I told Steve B. today that I am leaning more toward the Oct. rifle hunt because of the timing and other commitments I have. Let's get this figured out and scheduled.

And please realize that these hunts are a once in a life time chance because you usually have outfitter charges added on.

Like most of you, I can't afford those and will do all I can to do this now. S

S

[Reloader]

The Oct. rifle hunt sounds fantastic to me...Im not sure if I can afford it but if I can I am so there...I am also in Eastern NE so maybe I would tag along with Rifleman25...I can't commit to anything till it gets a little closer though cause I have no Idea what the money will look like this fall....

[Andrea]

R!!! I!!!! F!!!! L!!!!!!! E!!!!!!!!

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[Gator]

Think i am leaning towards rifle for the 1st time, at least up my odds a little. BUT I will gladly try it with a bow if that is the case

[rifleman25]

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The Oct. rifle hunt sounds fantastic to me...Im not sure if I can afford it but if I can I am so there...I am also in Eastern NE so maybe I would tag along with Rifleman25...I can't commit to anything till it gets a little closer though cause I have no Idea what the money will look like this fall....

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I am only about 45 min north of you. I am near Oakland.

[Reloader]

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Great Idea,

Bull elk tags for Unit 55 of Colorado’s 2nd rifle season, ( the dates of the proposed hunt) are over the counter and unlimited in number. You do not need to apply for a OTC bull license, as long as you buy it before opening day you are set. If you would prefere better odds of tagging out you could apply for a cow elk tag, $253 last year, and should draw with no preference points. During any of Colorado's rifle seasons you may hunt with the legal weapon of your choice (rifle, bow, blackpowder). 55 is a pretty good elk unit.

If you are wanting to hunt deer you will need a pile of preference points to draw a mule deer. Last year there were 170 mule deer buck tags for unit 55 during 2nd rifle and 802 applicants of which 40% were available to non residents. It will be less in 2006. Here is a link to CDOW's big game page. If you want to click on statistics you can visit 'hunt recaps' and figure out the preference points. They are not easy to figure out. http://wildlife.state.co.us/hunt/BigGame/

BeanMan

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Not to rain on this parade, but if it is indeed unit 55, it has only a 10% success rate, 128 animals for 1285 hunters during the second rifle season.... that does not make it a "pretty good elk unit" in my book.
However, it looks to me like it may be Unit 481 not 55. 481 has a 40% success rate, but that is only 82 animals for 204 hunters. The down side is that 481 is a draw unit, for both cow and bull tags, as the OTC tags are not valid there according to the 2005 big game Brochure (http://wildlife.state.co.us/brochures/biggame/pdf/elk.pdf) , draw stats in the 2004 second season were 319 aplicants for 179 bull tags, 116 of those had at least one Preference point leaving only 63 tags for the other 203 hunters to draw from.
The draw stats were much more promising for Cow tags, however, with only 280 applicants for 246 tags in 2004. Of those only a handful had any Preference points.
(Note: The draw tag numbers and the harvest numbers don't add up because hunters drawing these tags had the option to use them in 2nd, 3rd, or 4th rifle seasons, while the harvest rates were for 2nd rifle season only.)

So, Unit 481 has a higher success rate for tagging out but fewer tags while Unit 55 guarantees you a tag (OTC) but much slimmer odds of filling it.

Or we could both be wrong about the unit # and just blowing smoke. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Steve, can you confirm what unit this would be in? The only Taylor Reservoir I can find on the CDOW map is rather far south of Gunnison. However, I found Buena Vista on the Eastern edge of unit 481, north east of Gunnison by about 25 miles.

[texastrophies]

I am not quite sure how this has gone on so long without me seeing it, but, now I have. So, put mine name down for the rifle time frame. May have to do some re-arranging of plans but will definately try to be there.

For those that are wondering about how everybody would get along, the hog hunt that was held a few years ago had 20 - 30 attendees and almost everybody got along great. And I believe everybody had a great time. If you have the chance and can, you should attend. You won't be dissappointed.

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Reloader,

Try looking for Taylor Park Reservoir. It is north east of Gunnison and smack in the middle of unit 55. You have to cross the continental divide to get into 481. I agree that Steve should clarify to the camping and hunting site. I've fished
The Taylor River and Taylor Reservoir a bunch and it is some of the better fishing on the state. I've climbed all the 14,000 foot mountains around there too but never hunted that part of the state. I would expect odds to be better in draw only units.

Beanman

[silvertip_co]

HWats the deer and elk situation in unit 55? I spent 4 hours last eve mapping and planning a scoutijng trip to 55 very soon. Is there a lot of priv land there or none or ...?


"Reloader,

Try looking for Taylor Park Reservoir. It is north east of Gunnison and smack in the middle of unit 55. You have to cross the continental divide to get into 481. I agree that Steve should clarify to the camping and hunting site. I've fished
The Taylor River and Taylor Reservoir a bunch and it is some of the better fishing on the state. I've climbed all the 14,000 foot mountains around there too but never hunted that part of the state. I would expect odds to be better in draw only units.

Beanman "

[Tony]

i would be interested in bowhunting only. if thats not the majority , i might just swing out for a couple of days to meet everyone..

Shoot Strong
Tony

[stevebeilgard]

as i initially said, there is no specific spot selected yet. i am favoing the taylor park reseoir area. i think it would be great. once we confirm the area, i will get with the national forest and get a specific spot. right now, we're seeing if this will be a bow or rifle hunt, and about how many are even interested. we'll know a whole bunch more in just a month or 2. so far, looks like a big "go". steve

[waterfowler_gal]

I am very interested Steve. I perfer archery but would definetely do rifle.... Sounds like a wonderful oppurtunity. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[silvertip_co]

Sounds like a great idea to go to Taylor Park Res Steve

[snapper]

My wife will kill me if I bring this up to her...with all the "projects" around the house...baby due at the end of June etc...LMAO...but I will! If you don't hear from me in a few days, she killed me!!!!!!

As far as the hunt goes, I would prefer a rifle hunt and if I can do this...Pete will go with me as soon as I tell him he's going.

Let me throw it past the boss.

[Reloader]

Thanks BeanMan, that made it easy to find.
While cheap for an Elk HUnt, $500 bucks plus gas and food isn't realy cheap to my wallet. I just want to know what I am getting myself into. Getting skunked on a hunt is nothing new but it isn't something I look forward to either!
You called this a "good Elk area" in your last post. Assuming you are sticking by that, what did you mean by it? I know statistics lie a lot but they still looked fairly dismal for season 2 rifle.
I am still very interested and the money situation is looking managable to go, now just to iron out the expectations... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[VermontHunter]

Steve, what kind of fishing doe's this place have to offer ??? There's no way I could pay to have any meat transported back here to VT.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

But I may be able to squeeze a fishing license and air fair out of the wife,, You got extra tackle and a pole, a broke guy could use ??? I'll need sleeping quaters as well, is there a way a guy could work for food ??... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Maybe I should talk to Mr. Waddel about his travel sign.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I need to get out of this state,, for a breather... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[VtBowhunter]

Things are looking good from my end.......I prefer the archery season, but I'm sure that's not a surprise.

[VermontHunter]

Ouch !! the wife just looked up round trip tickets... Almost $500.00 smackers... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

But she didn't say NO..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[VtBowhunter]

[ QUOTE ]
Ouch !! the wife just looked up round trip tickets... Almost $500.00 smackers... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

But she didn't say NO..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Really? I've found them for Half that roundtrip.

[VermontHunter]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Ouch !! the wife just looked up round trip tickets... Almost $500.00 smackers... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

But she didn't say NO..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Really? I've found them for Half that roundtrip.

[/ QUOTE ]

Where and what airline Josh ??? Share the info dude.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[stevebeilgard]

josh, did your airliner have one wing or 2? lol. luke, i got tent space. we'll just whittle down a stick and put some string on it. dig your own worms. i'm mostly a flyfisherman, but do have some spinning gear. fishing is mostly for trout, 6" and up. bigger ones are a few pounds. not quite like my alaska place, where i've used 5 pound baits. lol but, lots of fun anyway. come on out, and we'll have a good time. and if you get josh's 1/2 price tickets, there may be room for the wife. unless you don't want her....

[VermontHunter]

[ QUOTE ]
josh, did your airliner have one wing or 2? lol.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL.. Steve I don't think the airlines are letting Josh come home, they are going to make him stay out there.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously tho,, we checked every major airline departing Burlington to Colorado Springs,,non-stop and they were qouting $475.00-$500.00 round trip....OUCH !!

Hey Man the wife stays behind,,, she gets to go to Florida every year alone,,, this one is all mine....if we can swing it.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I just want to get out and meet some people... Im sure I can find something interesting to do..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[bigbucks]

i want to go elk hunting so bad!!!!

[billkay]

"Seriously tho,, we checked every major airline departing Burlington to Colorado Springs,,non-stop and they were qouting $475.00-$500.00 round trip....OUCH !!"

What do they want for a stopover flt in chgo or minneapolis? May be a much cheaper flight.

[VermontHunter]

[ QUOTE ]
What do they want for a stopover flt in chgo or minneapolis? May be a much cheaper flight.

[/ QUOTE ]

Didn't really check on layover flights,, with it being such a long flight as it is I really didn't want to spend anymore time on the ground as it was...

But it looks like I may have to check into some of these flights,,so I can save a few coins.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[silvertip_co]

A few pointers from a CO resident.

You WILL save time money gas time and aggravation by flying in to Springs instead of Denver. Tickets are more to go into springs but its not worth the hassle to go to Denver. Get a two stop or three stop rt ticket and it'll be as cheap as it gets. You need to get tickets at least two months before to save the money.

I did a lot of number crunching using 2004 statistics and unit 55 is great for mule deer and elk. NW Colo is better, but its 300 mi further and is full of ranches. Unit 55 should be mostly NF and BLM land. most other units in central and sou colo fare lots worse in kill numbers than unit 55.

If you guys that may come have specific questions pplease email me and Ill answer as well and stright as I can : svenska50@hotmail.com

I live in Pueblo and work in Durango so I get to see lots of sou colo.

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Silvertip,

That's one heck of a commute, gotta be 4.5 hours or so one way on dry roads. Pueblo to Durango sheesh. I know housing is expensive in Durango but hey you could have found a closer place to live.

Beanman

[Pudd]

snapper told me about this hunt last night, my reply was ok I'll go. now we're just waiting to see if he's allowed??????????hahahaha. can't wait . rifle best suits this hunt for me on public land since scouting time for me is about impossible.

[IBO_bowhunter]

Great idea! I would probably be more interestad in the gun season than bow. (although bow is my passion). First time ever elk hunting I would like for the odds to be on my side a little bit more which I think the gun would help in that case. It really does not matter to me one way or the other though. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[elkoholic]

A $500.00 round trip ticket from Burlington to Colorado Springs is pretty darn cheap, especially if it is non-stop. If you take into account the cost of flying a jet (it will burn $500.00 in jet fuel just getting off the ground) it is no wonder the airlines are all going bankrupt. It cost my wife and I $2,300.00 for round trip tickets from Montana to New Jersey for my mom's funeral last September and these were discounted internet purchases, although they were purchased on short notice (the airline did not do discounts for a death in the family). It should be a great time for all on this hunt, so, just do it.

[silvertip_co]

"Silvertip,

That's one heck of a commute, gotta be 4.5 hours or so one way on dry roads. Pueblo to Durango sheesh. I know housing is expensive in Durango but hey you could have found a closer place to live.

Beanman"


To live in Durango means a 10k salary cut for me and a 16k salary cut for my wife, also my 200k home here near the shores of Pueblo State Park would cost over 600k in Durango. I can buy a lot of gas for those differences in salary and overpriced unreal estate. I dont mind the trip. I see lots of elk and mule deer, sometimes by the hundreds. THAT makes it all worthwhile.

Hope to see you all in unit 55, or where ever you pick for the ADVENTURE. Incidentally unit 55 had near 600 elk killed in 2004, not 128. 2005 numbers not in. Oh by the way, "Hunter kill" ratio means nothing, its total kill that shows herd population.
Thimk.

[Pudd]

question is more for steve or scott,any idea on when a decision will be made on the season, time ,place etc.?

[snapper]

Yep....going isn't the question now! However, before I can commit to anything...I need more info. Mainly when...the longer I wait to turn in my vacation...the better the chance that I can't get the time off.

[stevebeilgard]

well, it now appears that we have more interest in the rifle season, which is oct. 21-29. looks like you better plan your vacation time around that. if this turns out as good as i expect, we can maybe plan an archery for a year or 2 later. but, it now appears that the october hunt is what the most want, so let's do it!

[rifleman25]

October it is.

[VermontHunter]

Did some more flight checking and with a few layovers I can save about a $100 or so,,, but is this really a savings considering the time lost waiting for connecting flights ???? Man I hate lay-overs 3-4 hrs,, in a strange aiport isn't exactly fun....

Make's me wish I still had military connections.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I'm definately going to keep looking and trying.. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Pudd]

having trouble finding 2006 elk season dates and tag info (draw or OTC)for unit 55. no luck with previous listed links for the ,06 season. to many people telling me this &amp; that ,need to have some facts!!!!!!! thanks for any info

[silvertip_co]

Elk hunting equipment list:

http://members.tripod.com/~elkhunter2/equipment.html

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Pudd,

Unit 55 Elk is OTC for Archery, 2nd, and 3rd rifle Bull elk seasons. You have to draw for Deer, Cow elk, and muzzleoader. You also have to draw for 1st rifle elk and 4th rifle elk. The season dates of the proposed RT gathering are in 2nd rifle which is OTC for Bull Elk.


http://www.wildlife.state.co.us/Hunting/SeasonDatesAndFees/BigGameDatesAndFees.htm

Archery

Note: All deer licenses by drawing only

Deer/elk: west of I-25 (and unit 140)
Aug. 26-Sept. 24

Deer: east of I-25 (except unit 140)
Oct. 1-27
Nov. 8-30
Dec. 15-31

Pronghorn - Unlimited Licenses


Bucks only Aug. 15-31

Either sex Sept. 1-20

Pronghorn - Limited Licenses


Bucks (except for special units) Aug. 15-Sept. 20

Does Sept. 1-20


Moose
Sept. 9-24

Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep
Dates vary by unit.
See Sheep/Goat
brochurefor details.

Muzzleloading Rifle

Note: All deer/elk licenses by drawing only
Deer/elk (by drawing only)
Sept. 9-17


Plains deer: east of I-25
Oct. 14-22


Pronghorn (Either sex)
Oct. 21-29


Moose
Sept. 9-17

Rifle Combined Deer/ElK &amp; Separate Limited Elk

Note: All licenses for separate &amp; 4th season by drawing only.

*Separate Limited Elk
Oct.14-18

Combined (deer/elk)
Combined (deer/elk)
*Combined limited (deer/elk)
Oct. 21-29
Nov. 4-10
Nov. 15-19

Rifle Plains Deer

Note: All deer licenses by drawing only

(east of I-25, except unit 140)

Oct. 28-Nov.7

Rifle Late Plains Deer

Note: All deer licenses by drawing only

(east of I-25)

Dec. 1-14

Rifle Pronghorn

(by drawing only)
See Big Game brochure for units and sex

Oct. 7-13

Rifle Moose

Note: All moose licenses by drawing only

Oct. 1-9


Black Bear

** Limited (by drawing only)
Sept. 2-30


** Archery (unlimited w/ cap)
Sept. 2-24


** Muzzleloading (unlimited w/ cap)

Sept. 9-17


Rifle (unlimited w/ cap) - concurrent with deer/elk rifle seasons

To participate in the unlimited seasons,
a hunter must also hold a deer or elk license
for the same unit(s) and season.



*All deer/elk licenses allocated by limited draw only. Buck deer and bull elk tags are not available in all 4th season hunts. They are available on a GMU by GMU basis. See Brochure for specifics.
**Licenses valid in specified season only. Licenses are not valid in regular deer or elk season.


2006 Fees


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

License Resident Nonresident
Elk (bull, either sex) $46.00 $496.00
Elk (cow) $46.00 $251.00
Deer (buck or doe) $31.00 $296.00
Pronghorn (buck or doe) $31.00 $296.00
Bear $41.00 $251.00
Youth Big Game (deer, elk, pronghorn) $10.75 $100.75
Mountain Goat $251.00 $1,656.00
Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep $251.00 $1,656.00
Desert Bighorn Sheep $251.00 Not available
Moose $251.00 $1,656.00
Fees include a .25 cent search &amp; rescue and . 75 cent PEAC charge.
Note: Limited license $3 application fee not included.

[Pudd]

thanks for the info , that pretty much made this hunt a definate for me &amp; snapper and maybe one more buddy. thanks again

[billkay]

Is there a general non res hunting lic that is required in addition to the elk tag? Also, is a scoped muzzle loader with sabots legal during rifle season? I know it isn't during regular m/l season.

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

billkay,


There is no additional license required, just an elk tag. I just reread the regs, it says saboted bullets are illegal during muzzleloading season and so are scopes but it doesn't mention using them during the regular rifle season. I'll call them tomorrow and ask for clarification.

Beanman

[snapper]

Thanks Beanman...you've been a great help!

[VtBowhunter]

Guess I'm out.......I'm only interested in Archery.

[stevebeilgard]

sorry to hear that, vt. how about a fun fishing trip? bring luke with you

[VermontHunter]

Josh,, is loyal to his bow, there's NO question about that Steve... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I'm still crunching the numbers Steve,, http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Here is what they look like.

My unit 41 bull Nov 16, 2005

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f217/phaseolus/Beanmansbull2005.jpg


From my back yard, bull was taken high in the background.


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f217/phaseolus/PB260120.jpg

Wisconsin friends arrowed this one in unit 421

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f217/phaseolus/CO_Elk_Hunting_2005_019.jpg
We let this little feller live, spring 2005

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f217/phaseolus/BuckeyeRes.jpg

Mods, if the pictures slow this thread down feel free to remove.

Beanman

[buckee]

Awesome looking country Beanman http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Don't worry about the pics slowing down anything ... it's worth the wait http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I wouldn't mind going just to see the country.

[huntinsonovagun]

Beanman- Do you see elk that size pretty frequently?

I'm still trying to decide if I'll be able to swing this financially. Could be the only time in my life at a chance for a guided hunt at this price! Great pictures....

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

I see a few good sized elk every year, mostly as they are escaping through the timber at long range. keep in mind this is in areas I know fairly well. I get one about every third year.

Beanman

[Pudd]

awesome pictures, can't wait for the hunt!

[Tony]

i wont be hunting either and i will definately look forward to sometime in the future doing this with archery gear .
i might just swing out to visit. it would be fun to see some old friends and some new members.
i will keep a watch on what dates you guys pick.


Shoot Strong
Tony

[Griz]

Looks like I won't be hunting this trip either. I'll be coming up with Gator during the rifle season. It's going to be a blast to wet a line. Sit around and visit and enjoy the view...
I'm looking forward to it...

[silvertip_co]

Very cool elk pics Beanman.

[billkay]

Any word on the sabots and scopes on m/l's during rifle season?

[stevebeilgard]

we will definately be in some fine country.

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Billkay,

I called our local office and they said, "exactly what it says in the big game pamphlet". Which I told her it was not exactly clear. So, I have sent an email to the Denver headquarters asking for clarification (two days ago) and am still waitng on them.

we'll have an answer soon I hope,

Beanman

[Reloader]

[ QUOTE ]
FROM THE BIG GAME BROCHURE
II. Muzzle-loading rifles and smoothbore muskets, provided the minimum caliber shall be
forty (.40) for all big game except elk and moose. The minimum caliber for elk and moose
shall be fifty (.50). All muzzle-loading rifles and smoothbore muskets from forty (.40) caliber
through fifty (.50) caliber must use a bullet of at least 170 grains in weight. All muzzle-loading
rifles and smoothbore muskets greater than fifty (.50) caliber must use bullets of at least 210
grains in weight.

a. During the muzzle-loading firearms seasons for deer, elk, pronghorn, bear, and moose
only lawful muzzle-loaders and smoothbore muskets may be used by muzzle-loading
license holders.

b. During the muzzle-loading firearm seasons for deer, elk, pronghorn, bear, and moose the
following additional restrictions apply:
1. Propellent/Powders: The use of pelletized powder systems and smokeless powder
are prohibited.
2. Projectiles: Sabots are prohibited. For the purposes of this regulation cloth patches
are not sabots.
3. Loading: Firearms must load from the muzzle. Firearms which can be loaded from
the breech are prohibited.
4. Sights: Any muzzle-loading rifle or smoothbore musket with any sighting device other
than open or “iron” sights is prohibited.

[/ QUOTE ]

The initial paragraph (II) is the universal regulations for use of ML rifles or muskets during any season. The following (A, and B and subsequent numbered) paragraphs specify they are only regulating the ML seasons. This means the the first paragraph limiting the calibre and bulet weight used is the only paragraph relevant to the regular rifle season use of ML rifles. So if you want to use a .50 cal Savage 10ML-2, with modern smokless powder, 209M ignition and 170+ gr sabot bulets, topped with a 4-20x50 tactical scope...you can! Not sure why you would want that scope on any ML but you could use it if you so choose!?! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Nothing definite yet for my plans but I am still interested in coming I may just fish or I may bring a rifle or 2...can't decide yet. Either way it sounds like a Blast! Nice pics bean man...they sure spice up the interest even more!

[AJ]

Good digging James!

Why not have a 4-20x50 on a ML? It sounds logical to me. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Actually 3 of my ML guns wear 4-16x44 scopes.

[silvertip_co]

If any of you need to ship anything to CO you can send it to my place, I have a good dry garage to keep it int then you can pick it up on your way thru Pueblo to unit 55. Email me for details.

[The_Kat]

Any okies got a ride? I can split the trip cost!

[silvertip_co]

Heres what some of unit 55 looks like:


http://www.centcols.org/voyages/les_muletiers_du_colorado/image027.jpg

http://www.centcols.org/voyages/les_muletiers_du_colorado/image027.jpg

http://www.uncleruss.com/Tincup1_op_800x710.jpg

http://www.eugenecarsey.com/tourist/roads2003/tincup01.jpg

[rifleman25]

Nice pics for sure.

[silvertip_co]

map of unit 55 including elk range:

http://ndis.nrel.colostate.edu/Maps/default.asp?cmd=INIT&amp;MapLinksID=4&amp;VisibleDataID=69 ,22&amp;Topic=Hunting&amp;Place=&amp;Extent=315442,4262812.875 ,385560,4324166.125&amp;MapSize=1&amp;X=400&amp;Y=350&amp;state=zo omIn&amp;color=green&amp;style=Maps&amp;Referer=

[Gator]

[ QUOTE ]
Any okies got a ride? I can split the trip cost!

[/ QUOTE ]

Kyle, I am 80% positive that I am going, but right now I am not sure what I am driving up so I don't know what kinda of room I will have.

[stevebeilgard]

now that's elk country.

[The_Kat]

K well when ya figure it out lemme know. I am talking to a buddy. We may drive up and split the gas.

So total costs for meals, license, tags and everything should run me what?

[Pudd]

oct. 21 -29 ,was the season picked (rifle), for those of you that have decided to make the trip, does anyone have an idea of when they will be showing up?

[texastrophies]

Pudd, are you flying or driving?

[Gator]

I most likely will not be leaving Oklahoma till that Sat. Should get into camp that night.

[Andrea]

We will have to travel for 2 days to get there so we will most likely be leaving on the 18th ( wednesday) and get there Friday sometime. Hopefully. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

( Ya'll don't know how excited I am about this trip) http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[hutchies]

I would love to go. Unfortunately there is no way this year. Weddings and remodelings taking all my money.................

[snapper]

[ QUOTE ]
Pudd, are you flying or driving?

[/ QUOTE ]

Me, Pudd and his buddy Mike (maybe) will be driving...I don't do planes! LOL

[Pudd]

we'll be driving ,but if this trip was any further than say 28hrs., snapper would have to get over his fear of planes ! LOL.

[texastrophies]

There's nothing to be worried about, once they get up, they always come back down. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[elkhntnfool]

I would be interested in coming. It would be an 11 hour drive for me. I don't know if I would hunt or not. I won't know for sure until later. My father-in-law is planning on coming from missouri to go elk hunting with me here in Montana. We'll see when he wants to come.

[rifleman25]

Anyone from Iowa, Nebraska or other points east. I am going to and would be interested in meeting in Omaha or somewhere and riding out together. I might pass on the hunting as I will be elk and deer hunting a week before but am planning to attend just to hang out. Like I said before I have 2 14x16 wall tents with stoves and horses I am willing to bring if anyone is interested in packing a little less.

[snapper]

[ QUOTE ]
There's nothing to be worried about, once they get up, they always come back down.

[/ QUOTE ]

Its not the going up or coming down part that I don't like...its the sudden stop and loud bang at the ground I don't care to experience!!!!

[Hoosierbuck]

rifleman25 and others: If I don't draw into MT, then I would seriously consdier driving out for this from NW Indiana. Partly depends on what my buddy from Alaska decides if we don't draw in MT. If I drive out there, I'd love to hitch on with someone from here or at any point along the way to split gas and keep awake, etc. I am spitting distance to I-80, I-90, and I-94. Any possible rides besides hooking up with rifleman25 in Nebraska?
Thanks,
HB

[elnor]

I'd vote for holding the hunt during the muzzleloader season, which falls within archery. (Hopefully) good weather and during the rut.

[silvertip_co]

My vote is for archery elk and ML.

Sept is beautiful out here, cold nites warm/hot days, and I'll be just over the hill at Elkatraz 3 inunit 45 so I can visit and hunt with y'all in unit 55 too.

I start a new job in Denver on Feb 13, but will be around Pueblo a lot too when I am home.

Let me know how I can be of help to all y'alls.

[Andrea]

Okay...are we still voting, cause I thought this thing was gonna happen October 21-29. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[snapper]

I thought the voting was done also...already put in for my vacation. If we change the date from Oct. 21st thru the 29th...good chance I won't make it.

As much as I would love to take an elk with my bow...I feel my odds are much better with a rifle. Besides...not sure on the laws...but here you can hunt with your bow during rifle season if you choose. If thats the same in CO...then the folks who wanted to hunt with a bow, still could during the rifle season!

[silvertip_co]

Oct 21 -29 sounds fine too. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Pudd]

somewhere around page 3 , a decision was already made on the season and dates!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stevebeilgard]

yep. let's just stay with oct 21-29 for this trip. maybe archery in anoter year.

[Pudd]

sounds great, already making plans.

[elnor]

Sorry if I jumped in too late with my vote.

I'm talking with some family members about going out during ML/archery, so it would've been great for me if it was in synch. Can't make Oct because of other hunting commitments at home (that's a good problem to have, though :-). Maybe next year.

Anyway, hope everyone that can make it has a great time!

[texastrophies]

Pudd, you better look out, you are gonna run your post count up quite a bit on this thread http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[rifleman25]

[ QUOTE ]
rifleman25 and others: If I don't draw into MT, then I would seriously consdier driving out for this from NW Indiana. Partly depends on what my buddy from Alaska decides if we don't draw in MT. If I drive out there, I'd love to hitch on with someone from here or at any point along the way to split gas and keep awake, etc. I am spitting distance to I-80, I-90, and I-94. Any possible rides besides hooking up with rifleman25 in Nebraska?
Thanks,
HB

[/ QUOTE ]
80 is not far from me either and neither is 90 one is about 90 miles south and the other is about 85 miles north. Either works for me.

[Pudd]

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Pudd, you better look out, you are gonna run your post count up quite a bit on this thread http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]I'm always looking at the posts, just finally something for me to really talk back about. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[VtBowhunter]

[ QUOTE ]
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Pudd, you better look out, you are gonna run your post count up quite a bit on this thread http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]I'm always looking at the posts, just finally something for me to really talk back about. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Pete, I never figured you to NEED a reason to talk back, lol.

[silvertip_co]

[ QUOTE ]
yep. let's just stay with oct 21-29 for this trip. maybe archery in anoter year.

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That'll be cool, we was gonna put in for unit 45 tags for Oct21-29 anyway. So we should see you all there. My dau is flying out from GA to hunt with wife and I. So it will be GREAT to meet you all.

Offer to have you mail your gear to my home in PuebloWest still stands if you guys wanna do that. its only 3 hrs from my home to unit 55. Not far at all as the miles go here in Coolorado. Email me if I can help.

Fullmoon Oct 7 so we'll be hunting onthe dark side, we otto haul the elk out by ton. I just bought a 3wheeler to skid em out with. May have a 4wheelr by fall if all goes well on the new job i start on Feb 13.

[stevebeilgard]

i should have a half dozen horses in camp to do the hard pulling. also have tack to quarter any elk shot in really bad country. will work for food.... lol

[buckee]

I'm posting this for Steve Beilgard
I condensed it to make it a little more to the point Steve.


Below is the response to a friend of Steve's named Rita Laitres from Chris Parmeter, District Wildlife Manager for Crested Butte. His area includes GMU 55. I hope his information if helpful.

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RE: Hunt Location for RealTree Archery

QUESTIONS

1. Based on last year, how was the harvest in GMU 55 for archery season and rifle seasons? I know that the weather plays a part in this, but would you recommend one season over another?

2. Do you think this is a good spot for him and his group? Or as good as any other spot?

3. If yes, I’m assuming the campgrounds in the Gunnison National Forest are available during hunting season?

4. If this isn’t a good spot, do you have other suggestions?

Rita Rivard Laitres
Human Resources Specialist
Americans with Disability Act Coordinator
Colorado Division of Wildlife
6060 Broadway
Denver, CO 80216



ANSWERS

1 - Harvest fluctuates a lot in the Taylor area. This past year, archery was fair to slow, first season was a boon, second and third poor, and usually by forth, all the critters have moved out of the park. This could happen during third season depending on the weather. As far as one season over the other, it depends if you like archery or rifle hunting. 2nd season would probably be preferable over third season however, due to weather.

2&amp;3 - Probably at least as good as any spot. There are plenty of camp spots that could accommodate a group this size. I think the campgrounds (Dorchester and Dinner Station) are still open during the rifle seasons, but I’m not positive. However, there is plenty of suitable dispersed camping sites in the area.
4 - For a potentially large group, Taylor Park would provide the bested, easiest access to a good location where there (under normal conditions) ought to be good opportunity to harvest an animal.



Chris Parmeter
District Wildlife Manager
Crested Butte

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[Pudd]

cool info. , thanks Buckee

[buckee]

Hi there Pudd...how's it going? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Dakota]

I'd LOVE to go, but with the price and my heart defect I just can't risk it. Although my Martin (compound bow) is aching to sing. Maybe some other time. Man, all the good stuff happens in Colo, why not in SD? Well, shoot. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Pudd]

[ QUOTE ]
Hi there Pudd...how's it going? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]going pretty good Buckee , haven't talked to you since Tenn. ,how you doing? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[texastrophies]

Seeing as how my job has me setting on, well setting behind a desk all day, me and exercise have not really been aquainted lately (15 - 20 years). So I started walking last night. Walked a mile and then jogged 1/4 mile. Almost didn't make it back to the truck. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Think I will just do the mile walk tonight. The rest of you better start getting into some sort of shape (not round) so you will be ready.

[stevebeilgard]

good post, tex. time for all to start the training.

[Andrea]

I've upped the workout sessions for sure. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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[MadHuntinPastor]

This is the first time I have read this whole post http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I would have LOVED to try and do this. The drool was flowing pretty heavily until I saw the date confirmed in Oct. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I would have looked into it for any other week. My 10 year Anniversary is Oct. 26 so I don't think my wife wants to spend it on an Elk hunt http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif (I wish she did http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif)

What a great thing you guys are doing. This is awesome and I hope it isn't a once in a lifetime opportunity cuz I would love to try it next year for archery or rifle. Thanks Steve and Scott for putting something like this together for us guys who wouldn't have a clue otherwise.

[stevebeilgard]

hey, pastor. talk with your wife. she may just love the trip. my wife is a non hunter, non camper, non (oh, never mind), and she'll be there. it will be a great mountain experience, 8,000 feet closer to god than you are now....

[birddog]

Well, with the birddog getting married in May: Closing on a house March 31st: Heading on a Canadian Fishing Trip in June: And an antelope hunt in Sept: Looks like Oct. is pretty well free http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Of course the lil' lady doesn't need to know the trip is already booked before we get married! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Just talked to a buddy, and he is in: We would be leaving MN: On a Friday, driving down (straight through) through ND, then SD, down to Neb. and into Colorado: Heck it's a 500 dollar tag, and another 300 for expenses....I don't have the money, or time....but a chance like this is too great not to pursue! Sounds like birddog will be attending: If only for 5 days: I'll hunt when I can, and fish, and B.S. with the best of them! What a great idea!!!! Maybe a MN bear hunt should be next http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I just have to dust the rifle off, and get down there! WE would be happy to pick up anyone on the way! So far 2 guys in an extended cab pickup: We would have room for 2 more....or 3 if you want to get to know each other well http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Colorado Bob]

I'm going on the elk only season, which is the week before this hunt. I'll try &amp; drive up from Durango on Saturday &amp; enjoy the campfire with you all on Saturday night.

[Reloader]

This is looking to be a stronger and stronger possibility for me. May be moving this summer but if not I would love to hook up with Rifleman25. If I do move I will have plenty of notice before October and will have to make alternate transportation arrangements...
Rifleman25 I will send you a PM in the next month or so to confirm a seat in your truck!

[silvertip_co]

I'll come up too from Pueblo to camp and visit. I'd like to hunt the 21-29 week if we all draw tags. But if not I'll just enjoy y'all company.

[ QUOTE ]
I'm going on the elk only season, which is the week before this hunt. I'll try &amp; drive up from Durango on Saturday &amp; enjoy the campfire with you all on Saturday night.

[/ QUOTE ]

[rifleman25]

[ QUOTE ]
This is looking to be a stronger and stronger possibility for me. May be moving this summer but if not I would love to hook up with Rifleman25. If I do move I will have plenty of notice before October and will have to make alternate transportation arrangements...
Rifleman25 I will send you a PM in the next month or so to confirm a seat in your truck!

[/ QUOTE ]
Sounds good.

[Andrea]

Got a question. What part of the rut will this hunt take place?

[rifleman25]

[ QUOTE ]
Got a question. What part of the rut will this hunt take place?

[/ QUOTE ]
This hunt will be after the peak rut.

[snapper]

Yeah...elk rut is usally mid-late Sept. and mule deer is usally early Nov.

Depending on the weather...could hit a late elk rut and/or an early mule deer rut in Oct.

[stevebeilgard]

sorry, hg. the rut will be over. this will be a spot &amp; stalk hunt. bring good binocs and a spottig scope if you have one. climb high on a ridge, and look over thousands of acres of valley. lots of walking and stalking, and fun. see you in oct.

[Colorado Bob]

The peak of the elk mating is the 1st week in October per the last DOW meeting I went to about a year ago. That's why there the achery season closes in late September &amp; the 1st rifle season is the 2nd weekend in October. Mule deer rut starts about the 1st week of November &amp; really gets going around Thanksgiving.

Just remember this is an open unit----This means shoot the 1st legal bull you see. I know everyone has seen videos of big bulls-----330 to 360 class bulls. Colorado has them but there are in draw units. The photos that Beanman has posted are the type bulls you should be getting into.

[Andrea]

[ QUOTE ]
The peak of the elk mating is the 1st week in October per the last DOW meeting I went to about a year ago. That's why there the achery season closes in late September &amp; the 1st rifle season is the 2nd weekend in October. Mule deer rut starts about the 1st week of November &amp; really gets going around Thanksgiving.

Just remember this is an open unit----This means shoot the 1st legal bull you see. I know everyone has seen videos of big bulls-----330 to 360 class bulls. Colorado has them but there are in draw units. The photos that Beanman has posted are the type bulls you should be getting into.

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I don't care really. If I have to kill a COW that's fine with me. We plan on purchasing a cow tag and a bull tag just to be safe. Either way, I am just glad to be going, kill or no kill. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Gator]

If legal, I'm shootin it!!!!!!!!!

[snapper]

Hey Steve...I think we need to unpin this thread and start a new one.
Start one with the dates, location of camp, unit# etc...and who's attending (or at least plan to attend).
Its hard to keep track who's planning to go and who's not. This way we can get an idea of how many folks are going.
What you think?

[stevebeilgard]

i'll have scott review your idea and we'll see. steve

[Bowhntr]

Send me a PM with the unit #. Depending on the unit it might be better to wait until the First Combined Rifle season and that way all can buy Bull tags over the counter. I've already got the October dates off. I was planning rifle hunt in area 33 but my partner is backing out. If it works I'd love to try this.

[silvertip_co]

Order your free big game manuals here :

http://wildlife.state.co.us/RulesRegs/RegulationsBrochures/BrochureOrderForm.htm

[silvertip_co]

Been scouting maps and aerial fotos for a week, I think we should all camp at Boston Peak on Spring Creek Reservoir which is NW of Taylor Lake, or Mirror Lake which is SE of Taylor Lake up near the Divide. Both places look real Elky onthe aerials. Once we decide on a spot let me know and I will make a scouting trip to the area some weekend.

[Andrea]

Just signed up for the hunter's education course since I gotta have the certificate for the elk hunt. They say the class is full but that they have a high "no-show" list. I'll be taking the combination on-line /traditional class. Supposed to start March 14th.

Wish me luck. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Team Realtree]

Looks like the Oct. gun hunt is the choice. Count me in if this is the case. Just need to start making arrangements. How many folks are in on this? Will need to get a head count. I like to bring tent door prizes! S

[silvertip_co]

Something else I thought of, for you all who will be buying or applying for your tags online: HAVE ALL YOUR INFO IN FRONT OF YOU "BEFORE" YOU BEGIN. The online apply does 'time out' and if you goof around looking stuff up to fill in the blanks then you'll have to start over...allthe way over. Make sure ythat you have your four choices selected ahead of time too as theres not time to be looking stuff up and thinkin bout waht you wanna do for tags and draws once you start the application process. In 2003 I timed out twice and it took me two hours just to apply for one set of tags. Tjhe second set took 15min cause I had it all figgered out by then.

And dont forget your hunter safety info. If you don't have a recod of it your state DOW or DNR surely does. Or retake the course, yalls might learn somethin. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good luck. Lemme know how I can help.

[Andrea]

[ QUOTE ]
Something else I thought of, for you all who will be buying or applying for your tags online: HAVE ALL YOUR INFO IN FRONT OF YOU "BEFORE" YOU BEGIN. The online apply does 'time out' and if you goof around looking stuff up to fill in the blanks then you'll have to start over...allthe way over. Make sure ythat you have your four choices selected ahead of time too as theres not time to be looking stuff up and thinkin bout waht you wanna do for tags and draws once you start the application process. In 2003 I timed out twice and it took me two hours just to apply for one set of tags. Tjhe second set took 15min cause I had it all figgered out by then.

And dont forget your hunter safety info. If you don't have a recod of it your state DOW or DNR surely does. Or retake the course, yalls might learn somethin. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good luck. Lemme know how I can help.

[/ QUOTE ]

I need someone to finally clarify what all us out-of-towners HAVE to do and in what timely manner do these things need to be done.

I was told we would be purchasing the tags over the counter. So can we buy these tags once we get there??????

I know that this is still 8 months away but if there are deadlines that have to be met or applications for these tags that have to be submitted then I would think that that info. is pretty critical.

Help??? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Gator]

Bull elk tags are OTC, mule deer and cow elk are draw only. bull elk tags go onsale I beleive in July, deadline for cow tags and mule deer are I beleive April.

[Bowhntr]

Huntin Girl,
True the Bull Elk tags are OTC. However if you have never hunted Colorado before you will have to contact the DOW and get a Conservation Certificate number or CC#. This CC# will the be your "identity" to Colorado DOW. You use that number everytime you apply for a tag or buy licenses. The certificate itself becomes your license when you get the tag. There are 7 or 8 spaces on the back of the certificate for you to put the sticker for the tag that you have. When a certificate is full you just request a new one. I hope this helps

[Andrea]

[ QUOTE ]
Huntin Girl,
True the Bull Elk tags are OTC. However if you have never hunted Colorado before you will have to contact the DOW and get a Conservation Certificate number or CC#. This CC# will the be your "identity" to Colorado DOW. You use that number everytime you apply for a tag or buy licenses. The certificate itself becomes your license when you get the tag. There are 7 or 8 spaces on the back of the certificate for you to put the sticker for the tag that you have. When a certificate is full you just request a new one. I hope this helps

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Aha.............see something else I wasn't aware of. I have been trying to read the regs. for Colorado but sometimes it's hard to determine exactly what is required of non residents. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[buckee]

For those of you who are going to be fishing, what kind of fishing is legal, that time of year ? Is it fly-fishing only, or can you use a spinning wheel, with bait, worms or spinning bait ?

[silvertip_co]

Why in ythe world would a person want to stand in line to buy OTC tags when you can get them online??? Huntign season is short enough in CO without spending the preseason standing in line. I have stood in line, for two hours, wife has stood in line for three hours and still didnt get to head of the line. No we do it online, no waiting. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif The requirements are the same.

[Bowhntr]

Buckee,
Fishing isn't dictated as much by time of year as location. Different stretches of water have different regulations. If I remember right they are called like gold, red, and blue ribbon water. Each designation has a different set of regulations. Some are fly only, some are spinning, catch and release, slot size limits, etc. Anyway it's more about where you fish and not when.

[silvertip_co]

The CC ticket system is over and done. You will get an individual blue tri-fold tag/license for each species you buy a tag for. The long green CC tickets went out the window when the DOW went totally online. ALTHO some people still have them and do use the old CC numbers. We have them, the wife and I, and we use them but only to apply or to refewrnce in our emails to the DOW. Others do not get them and use their cyurrent DL or SS number, I think.

[Bowhntr]

Silvertip,
When did they do away with the CC#. I had to have mine last year when I applied for my preference point. Plus how are they going to track points now they were being assigned to CC#'s. One other thing, you said totally online. Are they not sending out regulation and application books anymore?

[snapper]

I just recieved a 2006 Colorado Big Game book in the mail. Applied online for it!

[RyanH]

For everyone going elk hunting, As of right now I have 3 elk hunting videos for sale in the classfieds!

They will help you. They helped me!

[silvertip_co]

The use what they call a CID number now same as CC but no long green card. Either number works.
You need one or the other to get a tag, and you can get the CID number online

[Bowhntr]

Got ya, I've been applyijng for points since 2001 and not buying licenses. I really didn't pay attention but my CC# was changed to a different CID# when I finished my house and moved last time.
On another note, I read somewhere back in the thread that this was an unlimited unit and to shoot the first bull seen. Area 55 has the 4 point restriction on does it not?

[snapper]

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Area 55 has the 4 point restriction on does it not?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes...according to my '06 game guide...unit 55 has a 4 point restriction.

[buckee]

For anyone who's going or thinking about going to this get-together, please visit this link.
HEAD COUNT (http://www.realtree.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=894888&amp;an=0&amp;page=0&amp;gonew =1#UNREAD)

[silvertip_co]

Not sure if you guys read this, but if you get rifle elk tags any method of kill is legal. Except ML under 40cal. So if you get rifle elk, you can use rifle, bow, Ml over 40 cal, or crossbow. It's in your book.

[texastrophies]

Is anybody going to apply for deer for this hunt. If you don't have any pref. points it doesn't look good to draw, but I applied anyways. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[snapper]

Yeah...I Pudd and I are putting in for a muley tag! Why not? Going that far, my luck if I didn't put in for one...I'd see a monster and prob. could have gotten the tag.

[Andrea]

Hey I have a suggestion.

After seeing the posts about the Okie get together.....I think it would be cool to have t-shirts made for the elk hunt too.

Don't y'all???? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[buckee]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey I have a suggestion.

After seeing the posts about the Okie get together.....I think it would be cool to have t-shirts made for the elk hunt too.

Don't y'all???? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Yeah..with "I MET A HUNTIN_GIRL IN COLORADO" right across the front http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Andrea]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hey I have a suggestion.

After seeing the posts about the Okie get together.....I think it would be cool to have t-shirts made for the elk hunt too.

Don't y'all???? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah..with "I MET A HUNTIN_GIRL IN COLORADO" right across the front http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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LOL..........riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[texastrophies]

License Question????

Are the OTC licenses for a specific unit or for all unlimited units for that season? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[silvertip_co]

Unlimited only refers to the QUANTITY of licenses for a specific unit. An OTC unlim bull elk tag is for a specific unit only, like unit 55. Except there are OTC unlimited STATEWIDE archery elk tags and unlimited statewide turkey tags and some others similar. I know this is confusing but when you read the lead in pages for each species you need to read 'every word' to understand what it is you are buying or applying for.

EMail me if I can help, or better yet email the DOW, their answers will be correct and official. I wont steer you wrong, but sometimes I misunderstand too and I am a resident.

http://wildlife.state.co.us/About/askdow/

They usually answer in a few days.

Good luck guys.

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

TexasTrophies,

Over the Counter Bull Unlimited Licenses are good in any unit during 2nd and 3rd rifles EXCEPT for units which have no unlimited seasons. There is a list of them and an explanation on page 24 at the top of the middle column in this years big game pamphlet. Only Three Units touch 55 that you can't hunt in and two of those are south of the Gunnison river. which is a long way away. The other unit, 56, only touches 55 at a single point and you shouldn't have to worry about it.

You may hunt unit 55 and most of the surrounding units on your general license during 2nd and 3rd rifle. The RT hunt is 2nd rifle. You are good to go.

Sorry that there has been confusion,

Beanman

[texastrophies]

[ QUOTE ]
TexasTrophies,

Over the Counter Bull Unlimited Licenses are good in any unit during 2nd and 3rd rifles EXCEPT for units which have no unlimited seasons. There is a list of them and an explanation on page 24 at the top of the middle column in this years big game pamphlet. Only Three Units touch 55 that you can't hunt in and two of those are south of the Gunnison river. which is a long way away. The other unit, 56, only touches 55 at a single point and you shouldn't have to worry about it.

You may hunt unit 55 and most of the surrounding units on your general license during 2nd and 3rd rifle. The RT hunt is 2nd rifle. You are good to go.

Sorry that there has been confusion,

Beanman

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That's the way I read and understand it.

UNLIMITED RIFLE ELK
There are antlered elk licenses for the 2nd and 3rd seasons only. They are valid in all units except ....... I read that as the license can be used in more than one unit, as long as the unit is not in the "excepted list".

Was thinking about maybe slipping over to 54 and giving it a try also, if 55 gets a little to crowded.

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Here is the pertinent passage in the CDOW pamphlet

http://wildlife.state.co.us/NR/rdonlyres/2BEF643C-C32C-43E9-8017-C84F5C535C1D/0/Elk.pdf

Beanman

[texastrophies]

From the horses mouth, so to speak.

HI,
You are correct. You can hunt in unit 54 one day and 55 the next. If you have any questions please let me know.




Thank you for Writing

Jeanette Scherbarth

Colorado Division of Wildlife

303-297-1192

[snapper]

This is good to know Jeff! Do the way and see method...if its too crowded in unit 55...maybe a little early morning drive to another unit will work.

[VermontHunter]

I have a question.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Who in the heck is going to teach this hillbilly how to fly fish ??? .. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[silvertip_co]

I can do that for you. Get a book and read up on it some first.

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I have a question.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Who in the heck is going to teach this hillbilly how to fly fish ??? .. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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[billkay]

How about a 2nd student, sort of 2 for the price of one?

[pabowhunt]

I can't make it out for archery elk this year, wife due in Aug. If I don't draw a MT tag I'll keep this in mind. Either way I'm still elk hunting this year!!

[VermontHunter]

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How about a 2nd student, sort of 2 for the price of one?

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Glad to see I'm not the only one that hasn't a clue what to do with a fly rod, but Im sure willing to try.. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Especially if I can hook up with a nice brown.. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[VermontHunter]

OK the pest is back with another question.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

What kind of jacket should I have with me in Colorado in MID. October ?? Extreme Cold Weather or Light Weight ?? I've been surfing looking for a good jacket but boy is it confusing as heck....and pricey too..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Boy is it hard to find RT Camo around here... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[silvertip_co]

I have worn longhandles at 6am and tee shirts at noon, all on the same day. Most Oct nites are cold and days are mild to hot.

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OK the pest is back with another question.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

What kind of jacket should I have with me in Colorado in MID. October ?? Extreme Cold Weather or Light Weight ?? I've been surfing looking for a good jacket but boy is it confusing as heck....and pricey too..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Boy is it hard to find RT Camo around here... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

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[VermontHunter]

Sounds like Vermont weather... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I should be allset then as far as the clothing.. THANKS... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[buckee]

I have a few questions too.
1- Is fly fishing the only way to legally fish down there in October, or do they allow spinning rods, etc. ?
2- How easy is it to get a non-res. fishing license ?

[texastrophies]

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I have a few questions too.
1- Is fly fishing the only way to legally fish down there in October, or do they allow spinning rods, etc. ?
2- How easy is it to get a non-res. fishing license ?

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Don't know about the spinning rod question, Steve, but to get a non-res fishing license you have numerous test both written and physical to prove you know how to fish, where to fish, when to fish and what you are fishing for. In the physical test, you actually have to go out with a flyrod and catch 5 fish within 1 hour before you qualified to receive a non-resident fishing license.

[VermontHunter]

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I have a few questions too.
1- Is fly fishing the only way to legally fish down there in October, or do they allow spinning rods, etc. ?
2- How easy is it to get a non-res. fishing license ?

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Don't know about the spinning rod question, Steve, but to get a non-res fishing license you have numerous test both written and physical to prove you know how to fish, where to fish, when to fish and what you are fishing for. In the physical test, you actually have to go out with a flyrod and catch 5 fish within 1 hour before you qualified to receive a non-resident fishing license.

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LMAO.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[buckee]

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I have a few questions too.
1- Is fly fishing the only way to legally fish down there in October, or do they allow spinning rods, etc. ?
2- How easy is it to get a non-res. fishing license ?

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Don't know about the spinning rod question, Steve, but to get a non-res fishing license you have numerous test both written and physical to prove you know how to fish, where to fish, when to fish and what you are fishing for. In the physical test, you actually have to go out with a flyrod and catch 5 fish within 1 hour before you qualified to receive a non-resident fishing license.

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I believe you too. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[VermontHunter]

Steve, here is some info on the Fishing Liscence....

Fishing Licenses Res Non-Res

1 day $9.00 $9.00
5 day N/A $21.00
Annual $26.00 $56.00
Senior annual (64 and older) Free N/A
Additional day $8.00 $8.00
Extra rod stamp $5.00 $5.00
Fishing &amp; small game combo - annual $41.00 N/A

And as far as I could tell,,, we are able to use spinner reals or fly cast ..... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Licenses are able to be purchased online or by phone or the old fashion way of visiting a local agent... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Here's a link... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://wildlife.state.co.us/ShopDOW/AppsAndLicenses/

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Method of fishing varies according to what wter you are fishing. the Taylor River is fly's and lures only so yes you can use spinners, just not bait. Taylor park Reservoir is open to all methods including bait. It all depends on where you are fishing.

BeanMan

[Nick]

Ok, I havn't said anything in this thread but have been keeping an eye on it. I talked it over with the parents and am about 75% sure I'll come out and I'll be flying.....unless there is somebody in Michigan or a state that is on the way there that would split the gas cost....PM me if interested.

P.S. If you travel with me, I like to listen to rap music and listen to it loud to get them 12" subs under the back seat kickin!!
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[VermontHunter]

Rap music Nick.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Glad I'm flying and not driving.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[silvertip_co]

I just got one of them newfangled Sanyo camera fones cause my old Motorola cell fone pooped out on me. I cant wait to visit Taylor Park and get some digifotos to post so yalls can see the place.I took one foto to try it and it looks like itll work ok, got a great picture of my left foot.

[silvertip_co]

Steve I go the map you wanted. I'll mail it out tomorrow.

[silvertip_co]

Didja get the map yet Steve??? I hope I put enough stamps on it.

[buckee]

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Didja get the map yet Steve??? I hope I put enough stamps on it.

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Nope, not yet....OH dang, you must be talking to the other Steve http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[VermontHunter]

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Didja get the map yet Steve??? I hope I put enough stamps on it.

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Nope, not yet....OH dang, you must be talking to the other Steve http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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LOL,, which one there's 3 of ya.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Colorado Elk draws are now posted.

http://wildlife.state.co.us/Hunting/BigGame/DrawResultsAndPrefPoints/

I drew my third choice "meat in the freezer" tag. Cow elk 4th rifle in unit 41. I had hoped to draw the either sex tag for the same season as a 2nd choice and still get another point since last year there were leftovers. But, hey, I get to hunt straight out of the house and will most likely be eating elk.

Good luck,

Beanman

[stevebeilgard]

got the map, charlie. thanks a lot. i've sent you a pm. steve

[texastrophies]

It's not a big surprise, but I did not get drawn for deer. The results are posted.

[snapper]

I just checked...we also didn't get drawn for deer.

[joebobhunter4]

i say we do this again in 2 years so than i could come. ive always wanted to bow hunt elk but i cant really do much til im 18 so hopefully we can do this again in 2 years and id love to come!

[silvertip_co]

NO WAY MAN, ELK SEASON COMES "EVERY" YEAR


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i say we do this again in 2 years so than i could come. ive always wanted to bow hunt elk but i cant really do much til im 18 so hopefully we can do this again in 2 years and id love to come!

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[silvertip_co]

I scouted Texas Lake on topo maps Steve(Beilgard). My plan is to get up there this weekend and camp/scout to see what is to be seen. I hope to camp right at/near the lakes as I got sumpin I need to look at nearby. The BO guys (my other great friends from Elkatraz) tell me I can drag my 19' camper over Cottonwood Pass pretty easy. I'll prolly let it up there for a week and get it the following weeknd. ALso hope to meet up with you last week of June when you come to scout. So if all goes well I'll try to get to see the ol place the next two weeknds. I hope to get fotos also and post tho my postin skills is minimal.

[VermontHunter]

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I hope to get fotos also and post tho my postin skills is minimal.

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If you email me those photo's I will be more than happy to get them posted for ya.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I'm getting real anxious to get out west this fall... Hope there's some good fishing to be had... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[buckee]

Can anyone tell me which watersheds (lakes, streams, rivers) we will be close to camp to fish in? I have the complete Colorado fishing regs book all printed up and wanted to look things up to see which fishing methods will be legal there and in which streams, lakes, etc.
???

Thanks
Steve

[silvertip_co]

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Can anyone tell me which watersheds (lakes, streams, rivers) we will be close to camp to fish in? I have the complete Colorado fishing regs book all printed up and wanted to look things up to see which fishing methods will be legal there and in which streams, lakes, etc.
???

Thanks
Steve

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Taylor Park is a bit like a glacier cirque in that many streams feed in from the high country that rings the area. But mainly the Taylor River feeds out of it into Gunnison. There are other streams in the Park, Texas Creek, Spring Creek and some others. Google it up on GoogleEarth and you'll see what I mean. If you need a town name to look for use TINCUP to orient your map then back off to see how huge the Park is. Steve Beilgard has been to Texas Lakes soem time back abns suggests that as our camp site area, it is almost due east of Taylor Lake a few miles.

Also if you go to Google then click on Images then type in Taylor Park Colorado or Cottonwood PAss or Tincup or Pitkin you'll get to see some fotos of the places.

Elevations seem to vary between 8000 and 14000 feet dependin on how good your legs and lungs are.




Good luck.

[VermontHunter]

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Elevations seem to vary between 8000 and 14000 feet dependin on how good your legs and lungs are.

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OH MAN,,, my legs ache already... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif,, but it sure sounds like gourgeous territory to explore...good thing I have plenty of room on the camera for lots of pics... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[buckee]

Thanks Charlie

[Colorado Bob]

A fishing tip------the browns will be on their beds in the fall. Here in the Animas, I take a silver rapala &amp; pull it across the deep holes. They will come up &amp; smack it---HARD. They are not feeding but getting it off their beds. I found the 6" one to be the best---3 treble hooks, Silver &amp; black. Put a couple in your tackle box just incase. CB

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

Yup a silver and black Rapala Shad Rap 5R will slay them that time of year. especially on the Gunnison.

Beanman

[VermontHunter]

GREAT tip Bob and Charlie,,, I'll be sure to pickup a couple of those to bring along.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks !!

I got ya covered on those Buckee.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[buckee]

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GREAT tip Bob and Charlie,,, I'll be sure to pickup a couple of those to bring along.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks !!

I got ya covered on those Buckee.... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I'm getting excited now...thanks guys http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[VermontHunter]

HEY !! Bob or Charlie,,, will one of these guy's work on those Browns and such ??

http://www.rapala.com/products/luresdetail.cfm?modelName=shad_rap_rs&amp;freshorsalt= Fresh

Just want to make sure I get the right ones,,,, I think the Size 5 was suggested...

[Phaseolus (BeanMan)]

VTH,

I tried a lure that ratteld and it scared the trout right out of the water. I'd stick to the standard Shad Rap. I like the buoyancy idea though.

BM

[VermontHunter]

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I'd stick to the standard Shad Rap

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Gotcha... Standard it is... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif THANKS !!... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Colorado Bob]

Mine is the original floating. I used to catch large-mouth bass with it---before I moved to Colorado. LOL--it's probably 35 years old. CB

[silvertip_co]

Well I didnt make it to Taylor Park yet. The ujoints went out on my Dodge and I had to ge tthat fixed. BUT I did get a Sony stick thing for my Handycam so I can take digi still fotos when I do go. I hope to make it next wekend and also at the end of the month.