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PAT_PATTERSON
02-23-2006, 02:39 PM
Florida Protect Possession of Firearms in Vehicles in Parking Lots!



Thursday, February 02, 2006 Every gunowner who comes to Florida as a tourist or visitor or on business needs to wade into this fight to protect our firearms rights. This right belongs to ALL gun owners everywhere -- not just those who live in Florida.

ALERT !! TAKE ACTION NOW *** HB-129/Possession/Guns/Cars/Parking Lots

DATE: February 1, 2006
TO: USF & NRA Members and Friends
FROM: Marion P. Hammer
NRA Past President
Executive Director Unified Sportsmen of Florida

SUBJECT: HB-129 Protect Possession of Firearms in Vehicles in Parking Lots

HELP protect the rights of all Floridians, out of state visitors and tourists who visit our state by motor vehicle and who carry firearms in their vehicles for protection and other lawful purposes.

Some Florida businesses are trying to ban guns in cars. They are violating the constitutional rights of gun owners and Florida law. HB-129 protects your right to have a gun in your car for lawful purposes. HB-129 establishes penalties for these ARROGANT CORPORATIONS who think they can control what private property you have in your private vehicle.

The House Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on HB-129 by Rep. Dennis Baxley on Wednesday, February 8, 2006.

Please immediately send email to members of the House Judiciary Committee and URGE THEM TO SUPPORT HB-129 by Rep. Baxley

(Below is a list of the email addresses of those you need to contact)

IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF YOUR EMAIL PUT:

SUPPORT HB-129 - Protect Possession of Firearms in Vehicles/Parking Lots

(To send one email to all committee members at the same time, block or highlight the entire list and then copy and paste the block into the address section of the email.)

HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU:

david.simmons@myfloridahouse.gov

jc.planas@myfloridahouse.gov
kevin.ambler@myfloridahouse.gov
dennis.baxley@myfloridahouse.gov
fred.brummer@myfloridahouse.gov
anitere.flores@myfloridahouse.gov
michael.grant@myfloridahouse.gov
jeff.kottkamp@myfloridahouse.gov
sheri.mcinvale@myfloridahouse.gov
joe.pickens@myfloridahouse.gov
curtis.richardson@myfloridahouse.gov
dennis.ross@myfloridahouse.gov
andy.gardiner@myfloridahouse.gov

(Andy Gardiner is the House Majority Leader and he needs to hear from you as well)

You can also call the District Offices of Committee Members -- Phone numbers at the end of this message.

BACKGROUND:

HB-129 Protects your have a firearm in your vehicle for lawful purposes and to park your vehicle in parking lots.

Carrying firearms in a vehicle for hunting, target shooting or protection of yourself and your family obviously means you can leave that firearm locked in the vehicle in a parking lot when you go grocery shopping, to the doctor's office, to the movie, to visit a sick friend in the hospital, to rent a movie, to the shoe store or anywhere else normal people travel to conduct business.

Florida law, the U.S. Constitution, and the Florida Constitution clearly and unequivocally give law abiding citizens to have firearms in their vehicles for lawful purposes.

Since there are CURRENTLY NO PENALTIES for violating to law, numerous businesses are violating the law and are banning firearms in their parking lots. Their gun ban policies apply to customers and employees.

How can anyone justify telling a woman who is being stalked that she can't have a firearm for protection? In many cases police tell these women to get a gun for protection because police can't be there to protect her -- and calling 911 is nothing more than government sponsored dial-a-prayer.

A business owner or manager has no more right to say you can't have a firearm in your private vehicle than they have a right to say you can't have a pair of sun glasses, an umbrella, a Bible or a baby seat.

Such an anti-gun political exercise is not good business sense. They want your money but don't respect your rights.

Businesses are not allowed to discriminate against employees and customers because of race, religion, political party, color of eyes, hair or weight. And they certainly can't discriminate because of the exercise of lawful self-defense. And, make no mistake, these gun ban policies are blatant discrimination against people who chose to exercise a constitutional right and take responsibility for their own safety.

PLEASE EMAIL and Call these Committee Members AND URGE THEM TO SUPPORT HB-129 BY BAXLEY

Chairman Simmons, David (R) (407) 262-7520
Planas, Juan-Carlos (R) (305) 442-6800
Ambler, Kevin (R) (813) 558-1333
Baxley, Dennis (R) (352) 732-1360
Brummer, Fred (R) (407) 880-4414
Flores, Anitere (R) (305) 227-7626
Grant, Michael (R) (941) 613-0914
Kottkamp, Jeff (R) (239) 344-4900
McInvale, Sheri (R) (407) 317-7797
Pickens, Joe (R) (386) 312-2272
Richardson, Curtis (D) (850) 488-1798
Ross, Dennis (R) (863) 701-1400
Majority Leader Andy Gardiner (R) (850) 488-1993 Majority Office


This will affect all who travel to Florida

buckee
02-23-2006, 02:47 PM
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Texan_Til_I_Die
02-23-2006, 02:49 PM
We've debated this issue before with the firing of the guys from the Weyerhaeuser plant in Oklahoma.

It basically comes down to the point of whether you think firearms ownership/self protection (and you really can't separate the two) is a RIGHT or a PRIVILEDGE. If you think it's a RIGHT, then the business owners should not be allowed to remove that RIGHT just because you're on their property. If you think it's a PRIVILEDGE, then business owners can allow or not allow it as they see fit.

Personally, I belong to the group that believes firearms ownership and self protection is a RIGHT.

slugshooter
02-23-2006, 03:02 PM
I believe gun ownership is a right, I also believe that carrying a gun on your person is a priviledge that should be extended only to those citizens who prove responsible enough to carry. I also believe that a business has a right to dictate their own policies and procedures while the cutomer/employee is one the companies property. Is it bad business or good business? Who knows, I guess it depends on the situation. My question is this? If you are carrying concealed or storing a concealed weapon in your vehicle on property where they explicitly do not want firearms on their property, how are they going to know unless you pull it out and start waving it around or leave it laying on the front seat of your vehicle in plain sight. If you are dumb enough to do that then you shouldn't own a gun in the first place.

PAT_PATTERSON
02-23-2006, 05:30 PM
First let me say I believe it's a right to carry and store any weapon I choose to in my personal vehicle. If this passes you could go to the extreme of, if you are going hunting and need gas or shells or stop for a cup of coffee or to eat at a restaurant, you would be in violation. How would they know? What if you are dressed in camo. Dead give away for the police department to pull in and ask. Then what?
The problem with this is they are painting a broad stroke to encompass everyone with this. If you need gas in the state of florida or want something to eat, you surely don't want a weapon in your car.