View Full Version : New Childrens Movies out....
04bowgirl
09-18-2006, 12:14 PM
Ok has anyone else seen all the previews for the new Kids Movies, "Open Season"? To me it seems like this is just a step up from Bambie trying to get kids to think that hunting is something bad, anyone else feel this way?
This is where you can go to the open season site to see what all the movie is about if you haven't really seen the preview yet. http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/openseason/
Andrea
09-18-2006, 12:26 PM
I've seen the previews. My kids want to see it. And given that they are 10 and 13, I probably will let them. But only because they like hunting anyway and seeing this will not sway them at all.
However.............I agree that it puts hunters in a bad light and if my kids were younger.....they would NOT be seeing it.
muggs
09-18-2006, 12:26 PM
yeah, I saw the previews for this and I couldn't believe it.
I love how its so wrong to steretype everyone...yet huunters are always portrayed driving rusted out pickeup, silly hats, bent on nothing but killing.
I don't get it. Disney is very anti, so it doesn't surprise me.
04bowgirl
09-18-2006, 01:25 PM
It makes me want to send them all the info on "Catch-a-Dream" the organization that fills the gap from "Make-a-Wish" and takes children with lifethreatining illnesses to the outdoors and gives them the chance to hunt. How would they look into those kids eyes and tell them what they are doing is "bad"
popgun
09-18-2006, 01:29 PM
I think sometimes we tend to overreact to some of the children's movies.
I don't think it will have much effect.
The original Bambi movie came out in 1942, and I probably saw it around 1954, at the age of 7.
By then, the movie itself had been out 12 years and had been shown to millions of people.
It didn't affect me any because I grew up in a family that hunted.
I also saw many western movies that showed Billy the Kid as the hero, the Younger Gang, and Jessie James, also billed as heroes or "good guys".
It never affected me in a way that would be adverse to growing up with a normal personality, because my parents and grandparents were smart enough to teach me the difference between fact and fiction.
I think we are making too much hooda about something that isn't important.
I'll chill out, watch the movie with my grandkid, and enjoy it.
If you are worried about stereotyping, I suggest you check back on the Beverly Hillbillies, Dukes of Hazzard, Petticoat Junction, and Green Acres, to name only a few.
Think of the stereotyping in the movies Rambo, The Deer Hunter, and Jacob's Ladder.
If you took those movies to heart you would have the impression that every Vietnam Veteran came home "psycho".
It is fantasy, for Pete's sake, and there are much more important things to worry about.
I would recommend that everyone should read this book:
This book is designed for the hunter as well as the non-hunters and animal lovers.
This was written in a manner that gives the biblical outlook on hunting.
SELF-INFLICTED HUNTING ARGUMENTS:
Biblical Responses to a Loaded Issue
by
Dr. Tom C. Rakow
....popgun
Andrea
09-18-2006, 01:33 PM
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It makes me want to send them all the info on "Catch-a-Dream" the organization that fills the gap from "Make-a-Wish" and takes children with lifethreatining illnesses to the outdoors and gives them the chance to hunt. How would they look into those kids eyes and tell them what they are doing is "bad"
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Oh I have a feeling they would do their best to make those kids feel like crap. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
ParrotHead
09-18-2006, 04:13 PM
We need to let those who repulse us have their say longside those whose speeches (or movies in this case) make us rise to our feet in applause. How else will the shiny pearl of wisdom stick out against the black velvet of stupidity?
04bowgirl
09-18-2006, 04:47 PM
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We need to let those who repulse us have their say longside those whose speeches (or movies in this case) make us rise to our feet in applause. How else will the shiny pearl of wisdom stick out against the black velvet of stupidity?
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Well put!
wtnhunt
09-18-2006, 08:13 PM
Seen the previews, thought to myself this will make an interesting forum topic.
Pretty well going to go along with what popgun has already said here. Personally I would not have a problem with my kids seeing it. My oldest and my 5 year old are both into outdoors and into hunting. As for whether it portrays hunters in a negative light, I have not seen it to know whether that is the case or not. In the past there has been quite a bit of over reacting to some of the Disney movies in here. Some people boycott them, my kids have seen most of them and they still have as much interest in hunting as they would had they not seen the movies.
Kids need to learn from their parents not from television and the movies. If you do not expose your kids to some ideas and inform and educate them, they will likely be lead down a road of a somewhat sheltered life and end up in the long run being clueless to many things in the world today jmho.
stevebeilgard
09-18-2006, 10:55 PM
good job, parrothead
slugshooter
09-18-2006, 11:29 PM
I wanted to read some responses before I replied to this thread even though I read it not long after Andrea posted it. It seems like there is a back and forth on here, and in society in general when it comes to talking about whether or not TV or movies can influence children. Whenever we hear about a shooting rampage or some other degradation of society, a lot of times the finger is pointed at TV, movies, video games, etc. etc. On here, it can go either way, when it is something violent, noone seems to really blame the the various media outlets, a lot of the blame goes on the parents, which it should be, because there are too many parents who do not take an active interest in their kids these days.
But then comes the topic of something that shows hunting in a bad light, and it is raked over the coals about how it will turn kids into tree hugging, anti-hunting PETA members. But that isn't necessarily the case. If it were, I would be running around doing the same thing. I saw Bambi when I was a kid, and I don't remember it influencing me as to not wanting to hunt, in fact, growing up, all I wanted to do was hunt, which was difficult since I come from a family of non-hunters on both sides. Fishing was a different story however. I didn't start deer hunting until about 5 years ago. Always wanted to, never had the means or opportunity. There was a family friend who introduced me to dove and quail hunting when I lived in Florida.
I can remember an old Disney cartoon, I can remember it more vividly than Bambi. It was one of those 5-10 minute cartoons that they showed on the Disney channel. It depicted the opening day of hunting season, pickup trucks by the dozens heading for the woods, an old farmer, realizing it is opening day, paints X's on all his cows so the hunters wouldn't shoot his cows. When I was a kid, I thought it was funny. Being an adult, I can see how blantantly anti-hunting it is, from the standpoint of hunters are inconsiderate idiots who will shoot cows because they don't know any better. That being said, seeing this cartoon did not influence me to become an anti-hunter, I saw it as funny, and I think most kids would see it as funny. I didn't really start to form opinions on issues until I was in high school, maybe late middle school. That is when a child is susceptible to the most influence, whether positive or negative IMHO, and that is when the parents need to be the most involved in their kids, instead of leaving them to "become their own person." Before you know it, that once sweet and innocent kid is wearing black, dying their hair black, painting their fingernails black, smoking dope, and crying because "noone understands me" and commiserating on the degradation of society when they have no idea what it means or what society is.
Just my 2 pennies.
wtnhunt
09-19-2006, 10:15 AM
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Being an adult, I can see how blantantly anti-hunting it is, from the standpoint of hunters are inconsiderate idiots who will shoot cows because they don't know any better.
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Sad truth even though you are right about this comment here sluggo is that each and every year some idiots out there do shoot livestock and even other human beings accidentally, in some cases just due to negligence or poor judegement, but it sure does not help out hunters. I personaly have tried to teach my kids that we are hunters, those who partake in that type of thing are not what I conisder in any way to be hunters. Part of being a hunter is being responsible.
It all falls back to parent responsibility. If you let your kids do things and dont know what they are doing and dont explain anything, you cannot expect anything out of them in the future. YOU are setting them up for failure if you do not teach them along the way. Movies and other influences out there are going to happen whether we like it or not. Thinking you can completely censor what a child is exposed to is really in my opinion quite naive, and not allowing them to see a movie like bambi because you are afraid it will turn them into an anti or a peta member is just plain lame. If parents get involved and help to guide their children with what to do with these types of influences and exposures they will have far less to be concerned with later on in the childs life.
SaskMan
09-21-2006, 12:07 AM
My 3yr old son loves Bambi and he loves my deer heads on the wall and asks to come hunting with me. I actually look forward to seeing the movie so that I can set people straight with factual information after they get a misconstrued idea of things, plus I think it looks funny.
BowJoe
09-22-2006, 03:29 AM
I think it's the people that don't teach their kids what to believe and not to believe are to blame and not movies. I love Disney movies myself and my daughter will watch all that I can get a hold of. But I will also teach her that what daddy does is different and the true spirit of the outdoors is not in a 1 hour movie.
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