Angry with the Republicans??

[markyj987]

I've heard over and over from the mainstream media how Joe and Jane Lunchpail are sick and tired of the Republicans.

Sure, they were angry that a Republican-controlled Congress with Bush in the White House did very little to further the conservative cause.

Certainly, they could not be happy with members of Congress spending our money on pet projects in an election-season attempt to garner more votes at home.

Then--this Mark Foley thing--now the media is saying this is pushing them over the edge. They say the right is not just disgruntled with their party and may stay home on election day--but that they'll jump the fence and vote Democrat.

Some are saying that the Republicans deserve to lose.]

Though I understand the cynicism at the ineffectiveness of the GOP Congress, something I heard on the radio made me rethink things.

In 1992, conservatives in this country were SO angry at Bush 41 that many stayed home. Many thought the Republicans deserved to lose.

We got eight years of Clinton.
We had eight years of higher taxes and a shrinking military.
We had eight years of liberal appointments to federal courts.
We had eight years of mindlessly pumping money into a failing education system.

I could go on and on.

If you're disgruntled and thinking about staying home on Election Day, THINK ABOUT THAT!

Do you want Nancy Pelosi to be Speaker of the House? You want her that CLOSE to the presidency? Do you want her to push through legislation to repeal the Bush tax cut?

If that's not enough, think about this:
--A cut-and-run strategy in Iraq
--Socialized medicine being made law
--Government targeting small business with ridiculous new environmental laws.
--More gun laws that penalize law-abiding citizens
--Repeal of the partial-birth abortion ban
--Government telling you what you can and cannot do in your own residence (Pelosi IS from California, you know--so she'd probably be okay with giving away free needles to people to shoot up heroin--but locking up people for smoking a cigarette in their backyard).

Does the GOP Congress deserve a kick in the butt? Sure, absolutely. But if the conservative base stays home and sits on their thumbs, we WILL get what we deserve.

[WaCoyote]

I don't think it's going to be as bad as they say. I may be wrong but I'm just not worried. I guess we'll see. I am a bit nervous though! Pelosi????? UGGGH!

[Strut10]

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......with Bush in the White House did very little to further the conservative cause.

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Go figure. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Bush is not a conservative. He's a moderate. Look at his take on immigration if you find yourself doubting it.

That being said..............a moderate Republican beats a socialist "democrat" hands-down every time.

[slugshooter]

I'm apathetic on the whole issue either way now for the most part. All Washington is right now is a big game, who can jump on scandals and how quick, both sides are morally bankrupt anyways. Do I like Bush, not necessarily, but I'd rather have him that John Kerry right now, and I voted for Kerry. As far as Pelosi being Speaker of the House, just because she is the House Minority Leader does not automatically mean she moves into the Speaker's office if the Democrats win control in November. The Speaker is voted on by members of the majority party. I don't think she will win in her party, she might be House Majority leader, but I don't see her party getting behind her enough to become Speaker.

[wtnhunt]

I hear you Mark. This state has a current mess on its hands with negative campaigning, and afraid it will have a negative impact on voter turnout, which will favor the dems. Harold Ford has been throwing some pretty low blows directed at Corker, and then turns and slams Corker for retaliating saying it is wrong for him to say anything negative about him, pretty sick of it all really. Our governor needs to go too. He is a useless lying piece of crap, unfortunately I have yet to hear of anyone who is put in a bid to run against him. My wife and I will both vote for sure this upcoming election, think Tennessee could turn out to be an important state.

[johnf]

The current state of affairs is not what I would like it to be. Iraq is a quagmire at best, gas is still $2 a gallon, (not exactly cheap) and the Folley thing took a page out of the former "Sweep it under the rug" philosphy of the Catholic Church.

That's not quite enough for me to make Hilary Clinton's voice one that really matters.

[jdickey]

Consider too.... 5 out of the last 7 Presidents have been Republican! I guess every now and then we need a Democrat in the White House.... just so we can have something to laugh about!

[markyj987]

Sluggo...Marc...my favorite left-leaning independent! Do you really think that if the Democrats take the House that Pelosi won't be the Speaker of the House?

Though I hope you're right about it, I'm afraid not. To you, to me, to other independent voters and conservatives, Pelosi may seem like an extremist liberal. And that’s exactly what she is. The sad thing is that most of the Democrats on Capitol Hill are extremists as well. Believe me; the few “out-there” things she says are what she and her party believe! They just know that if they said those things on the campaign trail that there wouldn’t be any of them in Congress.

But if the Democrats win the House, they will claim they have a mandate from the American voters and they’ll probably not only elect her Speaker, but probably coronate her as well.

The Democrats don’t dare go out on the campaign trail and tell us they want to raise our taxes. They don’t dare tell us they’re going to cut and run in Iraq—or again that they’re going to send Jimmy Carter to North Korea to make nice-nice. They don’t dare bring up socialized medicine. They don’t dare tell us they’re taking our firearms away. Why? Their views are NOT mainstream, despite what we hear from the “drive-by” media.

I remember not too long ago when the lefties were proclaiming that “King Bill” deserved a third term. (That is unconstitutional by the way—but since when does the left care about that?) Anyway, they thought he was wonderful because of what he did for the economy.

Of course, when George W. Bush was elected (in accordance with the Constitution by the way—Al Gore and the lefties can’t grasp the concept of the Electoral College), economic slowdown he inherited from Clinton was instantly his fault. When the booming 90s were here, it was a Clinton economy and the libs were giving him credit for everything.

Where’s Bush’s credit? His tax cut has pushed our economy forward DESPITE rising interest rates. His tax cut enabled us to absorb a major terrorist attack, two wars, and one of the worst natural disasters in our history. And here we are today—with the DJIA cracking 12,000 today!

Of course, he has not done this alone. This was done with the help of a Republican-controlled Congress. Of course, if conservatives stay home on November 7, they will get exactly the representation they deserve.

[WaCoyote]

Markyj....you are wise.

[wtnhunt]

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The Democrats don’t dare go out on the campaign trail and tell us they want to raise our taxes. They don’t dare tell us they’re going to cut and run in Iraq—or again that they’re going to send Jimmy Carter to North Korea to make nice-nice. They don’t dare bring up socialized medicine. They don’t dare tell us they’re taking our firearms away.

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But these are exactly the things they wish to do, and as much as they deny it, we all know it is true. Unfortunately taxes are the very first thing I expect to take a hit should they regain control.

[WaCoyote]

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Folley thing took a page out of the former "Sweep it under the rug" philosphy of the Catholic Church.


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Wow, I missed that one. You just couldn't help yourself could you?

[johnf]

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Folley thing took a page out of the former "Sweep it under the rug" philosphy of the Catholic Church.


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Wow, I missed that one. You just couldn't help yourself could you?

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With which part? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I meant that it seemed to me that the problem should have been taken care of way befor it got to the point that it did.

[jdickey]

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In 1992, conservatives in this country were SO angry at Bush 41 that many stayed home. Many thought the Republicans deserved to lose.


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Actually.... the nation can thank H.ROSS PEROT for Bush 41's defeat! Perot received 19% of the popular vote... the highest any 3rd party Presidential candidate ever received since the 1912 election!

Almost 60% of the country voted AGAINST Bubba Clinton!

[markyj987]

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In 1992, conservatives in this country were SO angry at Bush 41 that many stayed home. Many thought the Republicans deserved to lose.


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Actually.... the nation can thank H.ROSS PEROT for Bush 41's defeat! Perot received 19% of the popular vote... the highest any 3rd party Presidential candidate ever received since the 1912 election!

Almost 60% of the country voted AGAINST Bubba Clinton!

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In 1992, they didn't show up OR they voted for Clinton or Perot, but they did vote for Bush--and we ended up with the eight years of Clinton, etc...the same reults.

Of voters that did show up--62% voted against Bush.

Bush got defeated quite soundly considering that both Clinton and Perot ran good campaigns to court the so-called "Reagan Democrats" by promising smaller, more efficient government.