Hillary Clinton President in 2008

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Here's why Hillary will be our next President.

The two names that come to mind and are polling the highest ratings are John McCain and Rudy Guliani.

John McCain was deep sixed when he undercut the President over his judicial nominations and has consistenly crossed the isle to vote with the Democrats on key issues to the Republican party. Plus, he teamed with Feingold to write that hideous blatent violation of the first ammendment. John doesn't do well in the straw polls either....he was so far down, he tried--on the low down--to tell what little supporters he had to vote for Bush as a show of support....so he wouldn't end up looking as poor as he did. On top of being ridiculed for telling them to vote for Bush.

That leaves Rudy Guliani of 9/11 fame. I like the guy personally and I think he is a GREAT leader. However think in terms of the giant pie chart of die hard republican base and those that might be swayed to vote republican. Now start carving off the single issue voters. You can take the NRA and gun lover's vote out because he favors gun control. You can take those opposed to gay marriage out as well because Rudy supports it. You can then take out the abortion crowd because Rudy supports that, including partial birth abortions. What's left isn't even enough to make it close. Plus he has mistress issues and other baggage that will turn off yet more morality voters.

For me, the best choice woud be Newt Gingrich. He is a brilliant man who loves and knows history very well. Has a great sense of how Washinton works and I think he is the highest name recognition of anyone. I think he is electable with the right VP. He has some baggage but nothing like Hillary Clintoris.

Short of a heart attack, a plane crash, a car crash, or if Satan decides he needs his epidermis back and comes to claim it.....you are looking at the future of our Country for possibly 16 years.

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[wtnhunt]

We will see who goes forward soon enough. Still think if Frist is serious, he might have a good shot at keeping Hitlery from getting back in the White House. I think he would be a better choice for republicans than McCain or Rudy. Think he is possibly a more likable candidate that more real people will be able to relate to.

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Hillary will win, I am very sorry to say.

It will not be soon enough, I think that Newt is our only hope.

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[Andrea]

Got any GOOD news today New????? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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I just saved a buttload of money by switching my car insurance to Geico! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif That and I thought about staying at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Not a lot to be positive about today. If only I hadn't had those kids....I will probably keil over sooner rather than later the way I feel so it wouldn't matter. Funny how having those little mini-me's around changes one's perspective and outlook.

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[wtnhunt]

New, a lot can happen between no and 08. And the wife thinks I am too serious about politics http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif.

Would not be so quick to make assumptions about what will happen in 08 just yet.

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My wife just rolls her eyes at me but this is serious stuff here. A party in control that can't appreciate the fact that we are at war and undermines our efforts is a serious issue.

I guess you are right, the world could end. I guess the second coming could happen and in fact, you know I guess that God looking down on us just shakes his head that the murder and crime but when it comes to Clinton President he might just say "oh wait, hey now that's the last straw" http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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[Texan_Til_I_Die]

Hillary could become President in 08, but there are a couple of huge liabilities she's going to have to overcome.

First, her husband. Bill Clinton is going to have to learn to sit down and shut up, otherwise it will look to the American people like he's running again instead of Hillary.

Second, the newly elected Democratic Congress. They need some positive successes in the next two years and they need to avoid partisan witch hunts of the Bush Administration. I think it unlikely that they will be able to do either.

[jdickey]

Hillary will need to learn one word.....

OBAMA!

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I think it will be a Clinton/Obama in 2008 and that will be hard to beat.

That would get the black vote, the women's vote, and leave precious little left.

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[wtnhunt]

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Second, the newly elected Democratic Congress. They need some positive successes in the next two years and they need to avoid partisan witch hunts of the Bush Administration. I think it unlikely that they will be able to do either.


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Been thinking and saying the same thing. Unless they can show the voters that they were able to acomplish anything, or once again pull the wool over their eyes, Pelosi and the control may hurt the dems presidential hopes in 08 more than help them.

[gabuckbuster03]

i hope that hilary aint our next president cause shes worse than bill is

[slugshooter]

Well, I read last night that Governor Vilsack of Iowa is going to be the first to announce his candidacy...and that's about as far as I see that campaign going http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif As far as Hillary, yeah, she's popular, but I honestly don't think America is ready for a woman president. This does not mean that I would never vote for a woman for president, but I most certainly would not vote for Hillary.

Barack Obama is a very good possibility, I would expect Kerry to be back in it, as well as John Edwards.

Everyone knows that John McCain is my first and only choice right now, don't be surprised to see Lieberman back in it. Newt Gingrich I think is a very good possibility, and I would probably vote for him. Bill Frist will run, but I don't see him winning. The only way Rudy Giuliani will win is if he can play off the 9/11 vote, but I think by '08 that platform will have run its course.

[RangerClay]

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[JJL]

If the Republicans are going to run a serious candidate in '08.............they have to find someone who is "media-proof". Too many people believe the evening news without thinking.

We report, you decide.............let's just watch.

The GOP just got kicked in the gonads.............that's not a killing shot. But, it does make you think.

God bless the Mexicans............
JJL

[Mathews XT Man]

OK,.. this coming from a guy with a CLOWN avatar..???? HILLARY??? NO WAY!!! Id vote for Condolizza Rice if she ran!!

[FSU_Seminole]

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If the Republicans are going to run a serious candidate in '08.............they have to find someone who is "media-proof". Too many people believe the evening news without thinking.

We report, you decide.............let's just watch.

The GOP just got kicked in the gonads.............that's not a killing shot. But, it does make you think.

God bless the Mexicans............
JJL

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The problem with a republican candidate in 08 is that their is no "true" conservative to run.

John McCain is not a true conservative in the social sense. He's for the right to chose & I think he's for civil unions. He's very moderate on social issues, but he is a fiscal conserative.

Guliani is VERY pro gay rights & he's very pro choice.

Romney, the guy in Mass is a mormon. I'm not saying anything is wrong with that, but that will bother many in the republican base.

Newt Gringrich would get slaughtered. He's a polorizing figure & he still carries too much baggage.

George Allen ruined his chances when he used the racial slur in Virginia.

The 3 I mentioned before Gingrich are the mostly likely but they will have problems because they won't appeal to the evangelic wing of the republican party. Republicans have let evangelicals box them into trying to legislate religion in people's lives & this last election showed that the country wants a more moderate government to focus on other issues.

The abortion bill in SD was defeated, the stem cell research passed & gay married ban was defeated in Az, McCain's home state.

Politicians need to learn that the far left nor the far right is where most voters are on the issues. I don't know if Hillary Clinton will win in 08 but she's sure learned that lesson. She's sure tried to govern from the center since she took over being a senator.

[wtnhunt]

Have to agree with what FSU says here. Think McCain has the best shot of those mentioned, but he probably shot himself in the foot one too many times with his flipping sides back and forth, really dont think he will make it with the conservative voters. Why I think Frist may just have a shot, unless the media and the libs pick up something on him that they can run with between now and then. I dont think he has gotten quite the media attention the other likely candidates have over the past couple years, really he has been kind of quiet from what I have seen, which in a sense may be a good thing being that all the media attention on most of these other potential republican candidates, has been viewed by most as being negative in one way or another.

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The people ousted the Republicans in 2006 because they left their roots.

The dems are already looking to waste countless tax dollars investigating a naturally occurring event where people were too STUPID to leave before a category 5 storm, supposed torture, etc.

I think that Newt will be the savior of the party with his Reagan message.

I am sorry but if it were Hillary versus John McCain, I would vote for Hillary. That man is a low down rotten back stabber that screwed the president over many times siding with the democrats.

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[wtnhunt]

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I am sorry but if it were Hillary versus John McCain, I would vote for Hillary. That man is a low down rotten back stabber that screwed the president over many times siding with the democrats.


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Even if it were McCain and Hillary, I would still never vote for Hillary.

[FSU_Seminole]

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The people ousted the Republicans in 2006 because they left their roots.

The dems are already looking to waste countless tax dollars investigating a naturally occurring event where people were too STUPID to leave before a category 5 storm, supposed torture, etc.

I think that Newt will be the savior of the party with his Reagan message.

I am sorry but if it were Hillary versus John McCain, I would vote for Hillary. That man is a low down rotten back stabber that screwed the president over many times siding with the democrats.

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You have to look what Bush & Rove did to McCain back in 2000 during the SC primary. McCain was ahead & was going to win here until the Bush campaign ran massive negative ads courting religious conservatives. McCain was very POed about it. He smiles about it now publicly but I think he remembers it.