Atheists?????

[SRA]

are there any on here????

[Steven]

Yep.

[AJ]

Believe in somthing but not christianity.

[OJR]

Agnostic here! Don't believe in Christianity anymore at all or any religion!

[SRA]

do you all observe Christmas????

oh...btw...God didn't create atheists.....

[Shaun_300]

Not myself, but know a fair amount of them. I am Catholic, yet I have absolutely nothing against atheists. They choose and have as much right to be atheists as I do to be catholic. You won't ever hear me try to preach my believes into someone else's head. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Mathews XT Man]

You guys will beleive in something some day..too bad it will be too late

[SaskMan]

Yes.

[slugshooter]

This has the potential to get verrrrry ugly. I'm leaving now. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[unioncountyslayer]

Have a friend from church that use to be, but thank the Lord he saw the light!

[Steven]

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do you all observe Christmas????

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Christmas? Yes. Christmas is a day that I exchange gifts with my family and express my love for them and thank them for another year of love and support. That's all.


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oh...btw...God didn't create atheists.....

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God didn't create this atheist- Christianity and the hypocrisy that lies within did.

[buckee]

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God didn't create this atheist- Christianity and the hypocrisy that lies within did.


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Christianity has no hypocrisy in it, only people do. There is nothing good in me. I'm not righteous at all. I'm a sinner and I know it. when I do anything, that could be called righteous by man or God, I only do it, because of Christs righteousness, that covers me. I do things in the flesh sometimes, that the spirit tells me not to do. I know it's wrong and go to the mercy seat of Christ to better myself, as a child of God.
If that makes me a hypocrite, in man's eyes, then so be it.
The one great thing about being an agnostic or an atheist, is that no one can ever call you a hypocrite, because you get to make up your own rules. How convenient, and how self righteous. The meaning of self righteous is that one makes themselves righteous by their own deeds, or because they say they are good because of their deeds. Christians already know they are not good and lean on the righteousness of the Lord, and trust in the covering by his blood and the Grace afforded by it..

[horst]

self-right‧eous  /ˌsɛlfˈraɪtʃəs, ˈsɛlf-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[self-rahy-chuhs, self-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–adjective confident of one's own righteousness, esp. when smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behavior of others.

Lets see,

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do you all observe Christmas????

oh...btw...God didn't create atheists.....

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You guys will beleive in something some day..too bad it will be too late

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Hmmm http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[johnf]

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This has the potential to get verrrrry ugly. I'm leaving now. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Kinda' what I was thinking.

I'm a Christain.

[gabuckbuster03]

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This has the potential to get verrrrry ugly. I'm leaving now. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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same thing i was thinkin im a christian too

[SRA]

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do you all observe Christmas????

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Christmas? Yes. Christmas is a day that I exchange gifts with my family and express my love for them and thank them for another year of love and support. That's all.


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oh...btw...God didn't create atheists.....

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God didn't create this atheist- Christianity and the hypocrisy that lies within did.

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how can you observe Christmas??? just you typing the name Christmas is giving reference to Christ.....and God.......therefore in keeping with your atheistic views you should NOT observe Christmas...a "hypocritical atheisist".....

not trying to be better than thou....but you're confusing me.....

[wtnhunt]

I am a Christian, but I know some people who are atheists and are really good people morally. They just do not accept that God exists. Also know some people who are self proclaimed Christians and in the church everytime the door is open who have NO morals. Good thing it is not for me to judge.

[buckee]

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Self-righteous–adjective confident of one's "own" righteousness, esp. when smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behaviour of others.

Lets see,

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do you all observe Christmas????
oh...btw...God didn't create atheists.....

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You guys will believe in something some day..too bad it will be too late

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Hmmm http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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The biblical interpretation of self-righteous, differs from the secular interpretation of self-righteous.
Using the secular interpretation, makes all Parents everywhere...self-righteous...think about it http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Christians have that little curse hanging over our heads all the time...WHY?...because non-believers can not understand the righteousness covering of what Christ has done for us on the cross, which is "not our own" and not based on anything good that we have done. Non-believers use those terms, self-righteous, and hypocrite to make us go away and shut our mouths from proclaiming the Truth. And yet, when they open their mouths to proclaim us self-righteous, it makes them self-righteous for saying so. Jesus said, we would be persecuted for his names sake, so don't be too surprised that every time a Christian proclaims any of God's truth, that you get labelled as such.

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You guys will believe in something some day..too bad it will be too late

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This isn't a private opinion based on someones "OWN" self-righteousness. It's God's truth and God's righteousness being proclaimed.
Someday every knee shall bend, every head will bow, and proclaim that Jesus Christ is Lord, whether they want to or not....Why?...because the Lord will be right there in front of them.
Enough said. This is what is written, who am I to argue with that.

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Christianity has no hypocrisy in it, only people do.

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Then why do people follow man-made religion? And why must we have man, who holds hypocrisy, preach to us?

[Andrea]

Here's what I've always wondered..........................

If atheists do not believe in God, then why do they acknowlege Christmas and Easter and use God's name in vain?

[Newarcher]

This is a bad circular argument.

We are all sinners and always will be. You either accept Christ and the free pardon of sin or you don't. However, expecting a Christian to stop sinning entirely is disengenuous. It isn't going to happen and never will.

If Christians are hypocrites, then so are our parents "do as I say and not as I do" http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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[SUGARKAHNE]

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If atheists do not believe in God, then why do they acknowlege Christmas and Easter and use God's name in vain?

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That's something I've always wondered. Why don't unbelievers ever take Buddha's or Allah's name in vain? Why is God's name the first one that always comes to their mouth to curse?
BTW, I'm no atheist. I'm a Christian.

[johnf]

Buddha **** it!

Allah **** it!

Just doesn't flow off the tounge very well.

Anyhow, there's two things I've learned as a child.

1. Don't tounch momma's purse.

2. Never say the GD word.

[Steven]

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how can you observe Christmas??? just you typing the name Christmas is giving reference to Christ.....and God.......therefore in keeping with your atheistic views you should NOT observe Christmas...a "hypocritical atheisist".....

not trying to be better than thou....but you're confusing me.....

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My entire family are Christians and out of respect for them and to not make a spectical of myself, I participate. I listen to Christmas music, I exchange gifts, I enjoy the whole family being together. When they do their prayer, I stand with them and hold hands and otherwise go through the motion. Just because I'm atheist, I'm not going to make a scene and try to force my beliefs on them and ruin their holiday.

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If atheists do not believe in God, then why do they acknowlege Christmas and Easter and use God's name in vain?

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Why don't unbelievers ever take Buddha's or Allah's name in vain? Why is God's name the first one that always comes to their mouth to curse?

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I know, or I assume, these weren't aimed directly at me, but I'll answer anyway. I don't. I already explained my take on Christmas. I don't acknowlege, or down play Easter.

I don't take God's name in vain because I know that, in most places, 95% of the people around me are Christians, and I respect their beliefs. Too bad most Christians choose not to recipricate, but that's their choice.

I respect Christians for their ability to faithfully believe in something that I have no grasp of.

In fact, I sent a very nice Christmas gift to Jeramie, someone I've never met in person or talked to on the phone, which he received today, out of respect for his faith. Sorry I'm such a dispicable human being.

[johnf]

I don't , and I'm guessing no one here, think the vast majority of athiest are bad people. There are just as many bad Christain people as any, except maybe muslems.

The reason Christians are bold about thier faith is because we are commanded by God to be. If we weren't then we really wouldn't be good Christians. If we don't try to convert people, we are not doing our jobs down here.

Atheist have nothing to spread. How can you spread disbelief in something? Not meant to be a dig or disrespectful, just making an observation.

[dg]

This post will probably get just as ugly as the last time the question was asked, and the time it was asked before that. And no ones minds or thought was changed. GO HUNTING! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Strut10]

Refuse to get into any sort of a rant on this topic. I don't know many aetheists and the few I do know are not what you'd label as "bad people".

But I gotta ask one question:

How can anyone sit in a treestand or stand on a mountaintop, look around and deny the existence of God the Creator??

Random, cosmic, protoplasmic anomaly?? Really??? http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[markyj987]

Great post, Strut....reminds me of a quote from Martin Luther:

"God writes the Gospel not in the Bible alone, but also on trees, and in the flowers and clouds and stars."

[Lynn_in_IN]

I am not a religious fanatic, but am strong in my beliefs. I was kicked back in my tree stand the other day when I heard the squack of geese flying south. I started looking for them in the sky, and couldn't believe it. there must have been over 300 of them in several flocks. I even watched them switching leads. It was the neatest thing.

Only God could have given me that... http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Lynn_in_IN]

God created the animals on the earth, and the fishes in the seas, and the fowl in the sky for man.

dont know the exact verse, but i remember something to that effect.. and I thank Him.

When I gave my son his first shotgun, I had a small brass plate put on the bottom of the grip portion of the stock that was engraved' Bryan- Love and respect all God created- Mom" and he has left it there and tells me it will NEVER come off..

[wtnhunt]

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This is a bad circular argument.

We are all sinners and always will be. You either accept Christ and the free pardon of sin or you don't. However, expecting a Christian to stop sinning entirely is disengenuous. It isn't going to happen and never will.

If Christians are hypocrites, then so are our parents "do as I say and not as I do" http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Very true there New, and this could open up all sorts of other arguments.

I do catch myself being a hipocrit at times with telling my kids things and while I do try to set a good example, I do admit sometimes I do not always set the best example.

[Andrea]

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how can you observe Christmas??? just you typing the name Christmas is giving reference to Christ.....and God.......therefore in keeping with your atheistic views you should NOT observe Christmas...a "hypocritical atheisist".....

not trying to be better than thou....but you're confusing me.....

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My entire family are Christians and out of respect for them and to not make a spectical of myself, I participate. I listen to Christmas music, I exchange gifts, I enjoy the whole family being together. When they do their prayer, I stand with them and hold hands and otherwise go through the motion. Just because I'm atheist, I'm not going to make a scene and try to force my beliefs on them and ruin their holiday.

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If atheists do not believe in God, then why do they acknowlege Christmas and Easter and use God's name in vain?

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Why don't unbelievers ever take Buddha's or Allah's name in vain? Why is God's name the first one that always comes to their mouth to curse?

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I know, or I assume, these weren't aimed directly at me, but I'll answer anyway. I don't. I already explained my take on Christmas. I don't acknowlege, or down play Easter.

I don't take God's name in vain because I know that, in most places, 95% of the people around me are Christians, and I respect their beliefs. Too bad most Christians choose not to recipricate, but that's their choice.

I respect Christians for their ability to faithfully believe in something that I have no grasp of.

In fact, I sent a very nice Christmas gift to Jeramie, someone I've never met in person or talked to on the phone, which he received today, out of respect for his faith. Sorry I'm such a dispicable human being.

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I am not judging you Steven. Just never really understood atheism. Especially an atheist who was raised by Christians.
Do your parents know you don't believe in God? If my sons ever told me that it would crush me. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Guess that kinda throws out the "raise a child in the ways of the Lord, and he will always return to it" huh??

[unioncountyslayer]

"Guess that kinda throws out the "raise a child in the ways of the Lord, and he will always return to it" huh??"

Not exactly Andrea, his life on earth is not over yet.

[Steven]

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Do your parents know you don't believe in God? If my sons ever told me that it would crush me. http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif



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They know, and they're not exactly happy about it, but I don't bring it up to them too often. My mom still does try to get me into religeous conversations and I always say 'you don't want to cry today, do you?' and that usually ends it. Not that I'd yell at her or anything of that nature- she just won't hear what she wants to hear.

[MadHuntinPastor]

Ughhh....of course there are atheists in here.

I think better questions would be

Anybody not believe in gravity?

Anyone think that their truck was created from an accidental boom at the junkyard?

Anyone here who doesn't realize that it takes more faith to sit on bleachers or a folding chair than it takes to believe in a Creator?

It is your choice to not serve the Creator...but to deny he exists or that we were created is as silly as sitting on the beach and throwing sand up in the air waiting for a magnificent castle to accidentally fall into place.

[dg]

Go hunting....................

[Canadian_Goose]

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Ughhh....of course there are atheists in here.

I think better questions would be

Anybody not believe in gravity?

Anyone think that their truck was created from an accidental boom at the junkyard?

Anyone here who doesn't realize that it takes more faith to sit on bleachers or a folding chair than it takes to believe in a Creator?

It is your choice to not serve the Creator...but to deny he exists or that we were created is as silly as sitting on the beach and throwing sand up in the air waiting for a magnificent castle to accidentally fall into place.

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I thought GM made my trucks http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif But I guess just like trucks, there are alot of religions to choose from with different owners and a different owner's manual. And then there are those of us who walk... don't feel too bad for us though because we get to spend our sunday's in a treestand. And I think I have lived as good of life as any other God believing being. JMO but if God does exist, I think he/she/it wants us to find a way to stop killing eachother rather prayer on sundays and not eating fish on fridays. As far as I'm concerned you can pray and eat whatever and whenever you want, just as long as your not taking lives.