more sask DNR BS!!!

[sureshot]

we have a new warden in our town well he drives down 100 miles whneever he is told to check the area out lol!![not his fault goverment s stupid genes]
anyways I was talking to him about all the poaching of elk and all the native huntign of elk going on in my area, he does not know what to do there is one landowner who lives on the south of a huge game preserve the ranchers set up[don't get me wrong this preserve is a great idea in our area, the only hope of a deer getting mature and you can catch him out in bow season] he has 400 elk in his pasture this winter last year 300,the dnr thinks the herd is gettign bigger, bull they are all moving there becouse he feeds his cows 2 bales and the elk 1 to keep them away from his stacks,he is trainign the elk thet they need bails to survive winter not on there own!! to stop thsi they are giving him a ton of depridition tags I guess, to top it all off he is one of the owners of the game preserve that will not allow hunting but wants to controal the elk now!!!
the first thing if the population is gettign that out of controal put a anterless draw or even better a archery anterless [archery would be better couse more landowners will allow bowhunters in when catttle are still in there] but make it anterless, this eyear they put 25 either sex tags and all bulls were shot as far as I know and they put it nov1 when mule deer was on, hard tiem gettign them and they said no early season becosue of landowner permission with catttle out! second thing they shoudl do is tell the guy to stop feeding the elk and put up a fence big enough to keep them out it way cheaper than the bails! If he keeps feeding them they will keep coming back and there offspring and so on!! I just hate to see them kill off a ton of elk now !They just do not think when they do stuff!whne they killed the 25 bulls from the nov season or the natives killed all the big bulls this fall all the cows were bread, why not a anterless season!! if they woudl think abotu stuff put a anterless open archery tag available, a ton of people will but them and some of the cows will be taken,farmers will be happy and will not affect the draw for either sex that bothers lots when applieing for a anterless tag, and to top it off all the extra money from the tags will be a asett to paying the goverment officials more money and beifits!
No idea what is going to happen to the whole animal population and the hunting in our province with thsi goverment in here!!they just have no idea, I am sure my kids understand what is going on more than them!

[superguide]

Kind of same siruation going on in 55 with the elk-ranchers are feeding them and natives are shooting them-doesn't make sense.

[Greener]

We've kinda got the opposite going on here and it's all because of the bovine tuberculosis problem in the Riding Mountain area.
MB con. has made it illegal to feed the elk and is helping farmers protect their hay by giving them money for high fences.
The ranchers hate the elk becasue they are afraid the elk will give their cattle TB. One positive testing cow and the whole herd is toast.
MB con is doing all kinds of stuff to try to reduce elk numbers like extending seasons and what not but the elk are so smart they rarely come out of the park during hunting season and when they did they were being chased back in by planes. So it's not really working. They also shot a bunch as well to be tested for TB. So that ticked off a lot of guys too.
I'm all for them trying to get rid of the TB but there has got to be a better way.
There were a lot of po'd hunters last year because they paid for a tag and went hunting only to find government planes flying around chasing elk back into the park and park wardens culling them for testing. Seemed like a bit of a money grab. Which the gubment of course denied doing.
The whole native hunting issue is a hot topic here too. For both elk and moose. Numbers in some of the best areas are way down. The gubment just blames ticks but the numbers that go out in the backs of reefer trailers and half tons headed for the reserves are pretty high. A CO in the Turtle Mountains told me that for every one moose taken by a licensed hunter they figured 5 or 6 went to treaty hunters.
It's pretty discouraging when you are bowhunting for moose and walking down a trail towards a lake only to have a couple natives with rifles coming burning by on quads and then hear shots 10 minutes later.
Now we've got the whole metis issue as well.
I don't think it'll be long before we have an ugly incident here.

[sasksheds]

All I want is the same laws for everyone.Equal rights for all!I am discriminated against because of mistakes that were made in the past.I'd like to say more but I think I'll stop there!

[SaskMan]

I won't touch that native hunting issue and taxpayer bit though I'd love to. I will say that I received letter from the Minister of natural resources regarding the 2 buck limit up here. He informed me that poaching of the 2nd buck in zone 55 was "isolated" and that #'s continue to grow so they'll continue to offer the 2nd buck tag. I must be a heck of alot smarter than their biologists b/c I know that if you want to reduce a large herd, you should target the does, as each one of those will bring 2 more along next year. It's the only way to lessen a herd, targeting bucks is insane. Yes it burns my butt that some knucklehead drives by my house, sticks his gun out the window and shoots his 2nd buck in the zone he shouldn't be in. I can't believe that SERM is turning a blind eye to this in the name of more $$$. The herd here is going to grow and grow and along with it so will the poaching b/c of the 2nd buck tag available in the forest. I can't believe that I know more about herd reduction than they do, it is their job and they're blowing it!! http://www.realtree.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[bronco_mudder]

Another issue that i found goes hand in hand with the native hunting issue is the logging that goes on in some areas in Manitoba. In 2001 I hunted moose in the Duck Mountains, directly east of Benito. On the deisignated route we hunted on there was a total of 14 hunters, and two moose were harvested. The area is quite heavily logged and access is easy for poachers due to the logging road, but for law abiding hunters, you can't use that road, you must take a little trail through the bush. Ten years before in the late eighties and early nineties if four guys fought there way in there, and believe me it was a fight, you would come out with four 50 inch plus bulls, but clear cuts, logging roads, and poaching have decimated the moose and elk populations there, and I will probably never hunt that area again. We set up camp on one of the clear cuts, and natives drove right past our camp at 3'oclock AM night lighting, and actually shot a cow moose within a half mile of our camp.

What can you do?????

[fisherguy]

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Report them, that is illegal and they will be charged. The courts keep convicting because that is a public safety issue, not a hunting rights issue. We need to report this stuff to keep the pressure on.