Problem! Any help?

[RyanH]

Ok heres my prob! Last year before powder season my buddy and I went out to shoot make sure we are still on!!!! So we are shooting and my bullets are just going every where!!! No idea whats going on!!! I clean my gun everyshot to see if thats the problem! No Luck! So I start to wonder that my crosshairs are floating around in the scope thinking the scope is broke! So i bowhunt that year! I went and bought a 3x9x40 leopold scope! Then i went out to Gators and was gonna sight it in!!!! And once again it was shooting everywhere!!! I am useing the same load and the same bullets that i did in the past with awesome success!!! Any ideas on what is wrong??? Since i used this new scope and it did the same thing i know its not the scope!!!! Please Help season opens friday!

[Gator]

Yes, please help. We both shot the gun, both had the same results, shots everywhere, never seen such a thing in my life. BTW, I had already shot mine with success, so we can rule out shooter error.

[RyanH]

That gun is a Knight Disc rifle, .50 cal! 100 grains of powwder!!! Not sure on what bullets! They are the nosler Grain???? Sabots???? Ill have to wait till i get home to get the specs on them!

[RangerClay]

Is this a new gun?? New bullets? New/old powder?

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[David_218]

I am puzzled Did you store your powder in a cool dry place? Also what powder "777" , Pyrodex RS, or Black Powder? Are your caps firing right or do you experience hang-fires? I suggest you try some new powder and caps to rule out this as a problem. Let us know okay?

[RyanH]

I bought this gun new 4 years ago!!! I had 3 awesome seasons with it!!! And to this day i use them same combination of bullets, pyrodex 50 grains pellets (2 of them foor 100 grains). Powder is new from last year! All scope mounts are on there just fine!!! I just have no idea whats going on!!! one shoot will be high right the next might be low left one by the bullseye another one high right!!! And when i say high and low i mean by like a foot!!! Not a few inches!

[robk]

are you cleaning between each shot? ofr shooting 3 shot groups? maybe it's itme to change your round and go from there. try a bullet like the powerbelts and see if thathelps any
rob k

[RangerClay]

Try a new box of bullets and see what happens. Sounds like a bad batch to me.

Ranger

[Patrick_White]

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Ok heres my prob! Last year before powder season my buddy and I went out to shoot make sure we are still on!!!! So we are shooting and my bullets are just going every where!!! No idea whats going on!!! I clean my gun everyshot to see if thats the problem! No Luck! So I start to wonder that my crosshairs are floating around in the scope thinking the scope is broke! So i bowhunt that year! I went and bought a 3x9x40 leopold scope! Then i went out to Gators and was gonna sight it in!!!! And once again it was shooting everywhere!!! I am useing the same load and the same bullets that i did in the past with awesome success!!! Any ideas on what is wrong??? Since i used this new scope and it did the same thing i know its not the scope!!!! Please Help season opens friday!

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That gun is a Knight Disc rifle, .50 cal! 100 grains of powwder!!! Not sure on what bullets! They are the nosler Grain???? Sabots???? Ill have to wait till i get home to get the specs on them!

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A few questions first.
1. How may shots approx through the rifle?
2. What is your cleaning method? Which solvent? Are you using a bore brush?
3. Are these the bullets? http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...ku=00061900183

[Patrick_White]

That's what I'm thinking it may be. I'm hoping he can clear it up for me with his answers to my questions.

[Rhinodog]

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If the scope mount is tight, then it sounds like the bullet-sabot is skipping past the rifling. Buy JB Bore Paste & read the directions. If JB's ain't available, go to the auto parts store & get a can of Permatex Hand Cleaner. Apply the soft soap to a patch liberally with a wire brush. Alternate patches with gun oil... ie.. one with cleaner... one with oil.

I'll guess to say you were using a weak solvent. I'll guess again & say you cleaned with a jag instead of a bore brush. Buy a good solvent like Butch's Bore Shine, Birchwood Casey Bore Cleaner + Two, Shooters Choice, CVA Sabot Solvent... etc. Stay away from the weak fouling-only cleaners like T/C-13. If You're shooting lead bullets, get a cleaner that says it removes lead. If you are shooting plastic sabots, get one that says lead & plastic. If you're shooting copper bullets, make sure the cleaner says it removes copper. Soap & water is for dishes & washing your car or face... not guns. It'll work for a while... then one day I read posts similar to yours from soap users. The come to boards like this looking for remedys to their jag/TC-13/soap & water/Simple Green... etc cleaning habits. I have bought my fair share of "dirty' guns on auction sites at sinful low-low prices only to turn around & sell them for $75-100 profit. The prior owners thought the barrel was worn out.... all it needed was a real cleaning.

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I agree. Sounds like you have plastic build-up in the rifling. The CVA sabot solvent works great.

[RyanH]

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A few questions first.
1. How may shots approx through the rifle?
2. What is your cleaning method? Which solvent? Are you using a bore brush?
3. Are these the bullets? http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...ku=00061900183

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-Shots through gun approx 150
-cleaning method: During shooting i run a wire brush through it! After shooting i break it apart and complelty clean with hot soapy water!
-yes i use a bore brush
and no those are not the bullets i use!

[Patrick_White]

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cleaning method: During shooting i run a wire brush through it! After shooting i break it apart and complelty clean with hot soapy water!

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Ok. Get some solvent that will remove plastic fouling. Hot soapy water is fine for guns shooting patched round balls, but I prefer something that will help with the plastic when shooting sabots.

[RyanH]

Thanks for your help guys!!! Ill give these things a try!

[RyanH]

Will Gun Scrubber work? I went to the store and they are completly out of all kinds of bore cleaner!!!! So do you think Gun Scrubber will work for the plastic in my barrel? Also will i be able to look down the barrel and tell the plastic stuff is gone?