Sighting Method question

[PA_RIDGE_RUNNER]

I am from PA and we have a primitive firearms only season. I just about a year ago bought an RMC Accusporter and have added another barrel which is a 1:28 twist. I am limited to open sights for this season. I currently have truglo type sights on it with a fairly small front sight. My question is, what do you all use as a sight picture and why do you use that particular type of aim.

[shotist]

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My question is, what do you all use as a sight picture and why do you use that particular type of aim.


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The "pumpkon on a fencepost" or 6 o'clock hold for sighting in and a center mass or Navy hold when actually hunting. The idea being to sight in so that the point of impact is directly on the tip of the blade (or however much above that suits your fancy to allow for max point blank range).

[WABS]

I'm probably in the minority, but I have always sighted in with the front bead online with the two in the rear with the front bead covering the my intended point of impact. I too have to hunt open sights while I'm in MN. Sure does make it hard on us old guys with eyes that aren't as sharp as they used to be.

[PA_RIDGE_RUNNER]

I usually hold right on too but with more mature eyes too I cannot always tell when I am centered on the bull. On my next session I am going to try the 6 o'clock hold once to see if I can get a finer sighting than I am getting now. Guys if you can, keep your eyes young no matter how old you get. No I don't know the secret of that but sure wish I did.

[shotist]

The 6 o'clock hold gives you your finest hold on a black bull (AMU and Marine shooters will argue this point), but I think that your aging eyes will agree.

Where I can get my tightest groups is with a peep sight mounted as rearward as possible for max sight radius. The bead is centered in the peep and the very tip of the peep is touching the 6 o'clock position of the bullseye.

For more tired eyes, center the bead in the peep and position the bead to cover the center of the bullseye. Kind of like a circle in a circle covering a circle. Then, adjust your point of impact to be on whatever the bead covers (kind of like a peep and aperature theory).

I am 52 and although my eyes are not what they once were, I can still shoot irons pretty well. My threshold (prone with sling) on a Noptel system is about a MOA for patridge style sights, .75 MOA for peep/post and about .5MOA for peep/aperture. How long that will last is a good question.

[PA_RIDGE_RUNNER]

I would just love to use an aperture sight but they are not permitted in our flintlock season nor are scopes of any kind. A frind of mine who owns RMC Manufacturing Co has designed an open topped type of peep that he claims is legal. I do have one of those mounted on another rifle. It kind of looks like making a circle with your fingers with the fingertips up and then opening your fingers a little. Ive not asked our game commission about their views on this sight.

[HaDeRonDa]

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A frind of mine who owns RMC Manufacturing Co has designed an open topped type of peep that he claims is legal.

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Is it on the market as of yet? Has he made and tested one on a Ruger M77? Might he need a test subject gun? LOL

Peeps are cool. A friend of mine has a buckhorn rear sight on an old mod 94. and it blows my dovetail away.
I bet an open type peep would be the cats meow.

I hold center mass. Bullet strikes even with the front sight post at the given sight in distance. Most of my guns are sighted in at 1" high at 50yds. That puts bullets on the rise at 100 and on at 150ish - 250 depending on the caliber. That makes a 30-30 a 200 yd gun and a 270 a 300 yd gun if held on a deers mid vitals of course that depends on bullet weight.
I sight in just as I shoot for hunting. Though the "pumkin on the fence post" method is popular.
I've never sot a pumpkin but I have always wanted to. Hey!! the kids have two pumpkins outside still. LMBO

[PA_RIDGE_RUNNER]

Yes he has it on sale in many parts of the country as he sells wholesale to many archery and muzzleloader retail stores. I don't know if I can post his website here or not maybe a mod can tell me if this is ok or not.

[LETMGROW]

I grew up with the apple on the fencepost sight picture. [ similar to the pumpkin ] The key here is to be consistent while at the range or in the field. We often try to bury a sight when we see a shot in the field presented. This is where we have to dicipline ourselves to obtain that consistent sight picture. Sometimes it helps to talk ourselves through a shot. Take aim, squeeze and let the gun do its job.
I too am older and have trouble seeing both sights and the target with iron sights. I practice a lot using the rear sight more as a feel than an actual sight. I have worn reading glasses but it tends to distort the target at longer ranges. I use a little Whiteout on my rear sight as the brighter light seems to help some.
Sometimes getting old is rough, but the alternative is worse!

[shotist]

Yepper...you should "always" focus on the front sight. Young eyes can focus back and forth between the front sight and the target very rapidly, but with aging eyes comes a decided loss in focussing flexibility. Once this occurs, a person just needs to focus on the front sight and accept the target being a bit blurry.

A person is still further ahead to sight-in using the 6 o'clock hold as that is where the best precision will occur. Once sighted in so that the bullet impacts at the tip of the bead/blade (or at whatever height above that point to allow for best usage of the ballistics of the projectile), one simply holds center mass on the intended quarry's kill zone. Pretty simple.

[HaDeRonDa]

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with aging eyes comes a decided loss in focussing flexibility. Once this occurs, a person just needs to focus on the front sight and accept the target being a bit blurry.

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Isn't that the truth. Just think front sight post with a blurry rear sight apature
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A person is still further ahead to sight-in using the 6 o'clock hold as that is where the best precision will occur.

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Debatable but that will not happen from me.