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    Default Shoot thru Mesh hurts arrow flight says NRA

    I have long said that the shoot thru mesh windows found in most ground blinds do effect arrow accuracy!


    Now the NRA Agrees with me!.

    In the July 2009 issue of AMERICAN HUNTER MAGAZINE page 66 an article by Jeff Johnson NRA Staff writer proves this.

    they shot with Mathews reezen 7.0 bow and 3 common broadheads.

    Target was 25 yards Away

    the first Figure in group size w/o mesh,
    Second figure is group size shot thru mesh.

    Interesting:

    Thunderhead 100 gr 2.76" no mesh 3.76" thru mesh=.97in

    Rage EXP 100gr 4.88" no mesh 10.1" thru mesh=5.22

    Game Tracker First cut mechanical
    125 gr 3.57"no mesh 11.1" thru mesh=7.53

    The chances for wounding game sky rockets with mechanical heads, and they are dismal in many cases to start out with.
    Mesh messes up fixed Broadhead flight some and the mesh netting does a major slam job on Mechanicals , says the NRA.

    I am a Life Member of the NRA and worked there full time from 1974 to 1976 in Wash DC NRA HQS.qs,


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    No discrimination here, but what does the National Rifle Association have to do with archery? I agree with the statement though.

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    Why on Gods green Earth would the NRA try and shoot Mechanical heads through mesh .... { every blind manufacturer out there states NOT to shoot mechanicals through mesh} ... wounder why they wouldn't group ... CRAZY STUFF ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom2008 View Post
    No discrimination here, but what does the National Rifle Association have to do with archery? I agree with the statement though.
    Yeah, what's up with that?
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    Default NRA Supports all hunting and bowhunting

    Bill Winke writes for American Hunter and it a top flight magazine. They run a lot of good bowhunting articles and reports...

    they have bow test that are less biased than the bow magazine.

    Most of the NRA Male Staff under 60 bowhunt too.

    I guess you boys are not NRA members

    If you read other Forums you will see it popular theory that mech do shoot thru mesh


    just as many Bowhunters and manufactures claim that fixed heads are un affected by mesh.

    I have seen a number of mech shot thru mesh on TV Shows as well.
    WhenI posted ona big forum they we dotn allow hunters to shoot thru mesh you should have seen all the mail of guyd that do it all the tiem with NO PROBLEMS


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    i aways thought that being it would have to cut the mesh before leaving the blind, and could have a slight drag on arrow as it leaves the mesh.

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    Default I think so

    Well for one think if a blade has to cut the mesh it would not be as sharp as a fresh broadhed whenit hits a buck

    i heard froma boy that shot a gobbler thru the mesh witha mech

    It takes all kinds i guess


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    Well, it seems like common sense to me, it's just simple physics and areodynamics that mesh would affect arrow flight. People that say it wouldn't are just very good marketers selling a product.
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    I always thought that it would affect arrow flight, that's why I always take mine out of the blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion_70 View Post
    Well, it seems like common sense to me, it's just simple physics and areodynamics that mesh would affect arrow flight.

    I couldnt agree more. I would never shoot anything through mesh.
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    When blinds with screen windows came out on the market it took a very short time for most people to realize that fixed blade was the only way to go. I dont have any idea where these people that seem to have issue with you Tink have been hiding but it seems they just want to fight with you.
    I know of nobody that can get any mechanical broadhead with pre-opened blades to fly with any consistency what-so-ever! Screens are more than enough to open the mech's blades and what happens to them in flight after that is pretty much a complete toss-up.

    IMHO razor sharp fixed blade broadheads can shoot consistently through screens with a minor decrease in "Effective Range". If I have to decrease my range at which I'll take a shot because I'm choosing to shoot through screens it's not even a flashing thought. It's an accepted way to get the deed done and if it has that circumstance as part of the equation it is just something that has to happen. There are no questions or any doubts about what is right to do it is a simple fact. Add the screens and decrease distance to shoot effectively. If I have not shot through screens during my practice, and have become very familiar with my equipements capabilities in that situation, than I simply have no business shooting at game through them.
    What I do not know(I have not read it) is if the article you've mentioned has included every other aspect involved in taking game in the "Ground Blind Equation"?
    Did it cover not only the issue of shooting through screens but did it also cover:
    Shooting position: Standing, Kneeling, Sitting?
    How Draw Weight effects performance?
    Proper Practice for maximum results?
    Safety?
    ...and probably a few I'm leaving out???

    Once the parts of the equation have been put together to an individuals shooting style and personality theres nothing left but the effort to complete it.
    The only question quite simply is where can I put the blind to get that Deer or other animal within that effective range if I choose to shoot through screens!

    I get very few magazines anymore simply because most of them are more geared toward making advertising dollars than anything else.
    Anyone reading any article in a magazine should try out the information found and form their own opinion about what works for them.

    I am a member of the NRA, who gets that magazine(and it is a good one), and that has nothing to do with my opinion.
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    A mesh would likely cause my mechanicals to open (Rocky Mountain Gator XP). They fly close to field points when the blades are not open, if they were open they would have to be less accurate. Although I never plan to find out for sure.
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    I've got a blind with shoot-thru mesh, but I've taken it all out. I'll admit it worked good to hide me, but it just didn't feel comfortable shooting out of it.

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    i have the double bull and it was good on it never had trouble just cant see through it early in the morning and late at night
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    Just open the windows a bit more


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