Canuck these deer are suburban deer and hunting is not allowed in my section of Woodbury. Its a sad deal, but I've been watching these bucks grow for 6 years. Its actually pretty neat to see some of the same deer every year. I always get to shed hunt for them too. Oh and another thing Canuck these are just the small ones in the area. Yeah he was starting it, but it didn't sprout until late august. I'm sure he will be looking pretty good next year.