Need some help with this one

[buckbuster11]

The date of the second picuture is Nov 19th and that's awful early for a buck to be losing his rack. But, looking at the body of these deer, man they look the same. It sort of looks like you can see two "holes" in between the ears in the second picture where the rack could have been also.
What do you guys/gals think?

[slughunter]

Im thinking that the bottom picture is just a really nice doe.

-shane

[LifeNRA]

Im thinking that the bottom picture is just a really nice doe.

-shane

Thats what I think as well. The top pic, you can see how far the ears are apart for antler growth. While the bottom pic, the ears are closer together. Plus you can see the tarsal glands on the top pic are still dark, where as the bottom pic is not.

[lungbuster12point06]

Bottom pix is a big doe, look at the rounded head.

[buckee]

Im thinking that the bottom picture is just a really nice doe.

-shane

Yeppers ...It's just a really nice mature doe. Look at the difference in the neck.

[Swamphunter]

Another vote for doe!

[VermontHunter]

Looks to be brother and sister to me .... They both have alot of the same characteristics ...

[Illinois59]

I think the buck removed his antlers for the gun season.

[hoosierhunter]

Slickhead..........

[Tominator]

Looks like a monster doe John.

Also, look at the fur line of brown to white on both deer. The doe's white line comes up higher. Dew claws give it away too.

Not the same deer IMHO.

[toddyboman]

Not the same deer

[Ohiobucks]

The deer are different, but that tree in the 2nd pic looks a lot like the one in the 1st pic.

[bigbuck145]

Got you a healthy slickhead there buddy.

[Finn]

The deer are different, but that tree in the 2nd pic looks a lot like the one in the 1st pic.

I agree

[Tominator]

The deer are different, but that tree in the 2nd pic looks a lot like the one in the 1st pic.

Yep, either a young red oak or fawn eastern poplar, can't really tell. Let him go a few years, and wow--cordwood out the ying yang.