The Faith of John Kerry

[johnf]

I don't think that was an accedent.

[OJR]

It is just another case of him flopping things around or getting things backwards!

[buckee]

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It is just another case of him flopping things around or getting things backwards!


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LMBO ...good analogy Orlan

[wtnhunt]

Whether this is true or not based on what I have seen of Kerry watching him speak and following how he has dealt with thing, he does not seem to me to be a person of the kind of moral values that a true Christian would have.

Too many things he says and does just do not fit, despite what he might say to one particular group of people or the next.

[oldksnarc]

And what ever happened to seperation of church and state. The liberals demand it at every turn and have forced prayer from almost every venue in our lives. But, who shows up every Sunday at at least one church - Kerry. And, not only does he "worship," but he usually gives a speech from the pulpit.

Talk about speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

[slugshooter]

But in his going to church, is he forcing a specific religion on people, No, he is excercising his right to attend a church of his choice. I haven't heard him endorse any specific religion.

[oldksnarc]

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But in his going to church, is he forcing a specific religion on people, No, he is excercising his right to attend a church of his choice. I haven't heard him endorse any specific religion.

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No one said he's forcing religion on others. Said he was using religion for political purpose. AND, they have spurned religion in almost every walk of life, except when it's to their advantage - like using it to get votes. AGAIN, two-faced business as usual.

[wtnhunt]

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But in his going to church, is he forcing a specific religion on people, No, he is excercising his right to attend a church of his choice. I haven't heard him endorse any specific religion.

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Kerry claims to be a devout Catholic! He has said it many times and even said it on the debates, how could you not hear him refer to his faith. You really are not paying very close attention to your candidate.

[slugshooter]

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But in his going to church, is he forcing a specific religion on people, No, he is excercising his right to attend a church of his choice. I haven't heard him endorse any specific religion.

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Kerry claims to be a devout Catholic! He has said it many times and even said it on the debates, how could you not hear him refer to his faith. You really are not paying very close attention to your candidate.

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Claiming a specific DENOMINATION is very different from claiming a specific RELIGION. I know Kerry is a Catholic, and Bush is a Methodist, so was Clinton, and I believe Bush Sr. was Episcopalian, and Carter was a Baptist, I don't think Reagan claimed a specific denomination.

[buckee]

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Claiming a specific DENOMINATION is very different from claiming a specific RELIGION

[/ QUOTE ] ...... Catholic, Methodists, Episcopalian, Baptist ... they're all Christian slugger. The only thing that separates them are a few doctrinal differences. Some more than others.

[slugshooter]

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Claiming a specific DENOMINATION is very different from claiming a specific RELIGION

[/ QUOTE ] ...... Catholic, Methodists, Episcopalian, Baptist ... they're all Christian slugger. The only thing that separates them are a few doctrinal differences. Some more than others.

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And, you aren't telling me anything I didn't already know. Complaints were made about Kerry talking about his Catholicism and him supporting the separation of church and state. I could care less if Bush was a Mormon and Kerry was a Unitarian Universalist, just as long as neither one of them try to enforce their religous beliefs into the constitution, which is what Bush is trying to do.

[buckee]

My point was slugger, that claiming your DENOMINATION is the same as claiming your RELIGION .

GEESH, your sounding more and more like Kerry every day slugger.

[Bruce Schmeck]

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My point was slugger, that claiming your DENOMINATION is the same as claiming your RELIGION .

GEESH, your sounding more and more like Kerry every day slugger.

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Buckee, sometimes that boy really scares me!

John Kerry's true religion could best be described as Socialism.

[wtnhunt]

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My point was slugger, that claiming your DENOMINATION is the same as claiming your RELIGION .
GEESH, your sounding more and more like Kerry every day slugger.

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Sure is. Really dont think he gets it.

[slugshooter]

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My point was slugger, that claiming your DENOMINATION is the same as claiming your RELIGION .
GEESH, your sounding more and more like Kerry every day slugger.

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Sure is. Really dont think he gets it.

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The fact that I do get it is the reason I am not voting for Bush again. I get the fact that he used faulty intelligence to sell the Iraq war to Congress and the American people, I get the fact that he wants to use the US Constitution to force his religious beliefs on a country that has an amendment separating the church and government, I get the fact that the economy is in the crapper, hasn't gotten better, and if it had 300 people wouldn't be getting ready to look for a job here because they are getting laid off, I get the fact he supports the erosion of US citizens civil liberties on the sheer basis of their last name and ethnic group all in the name of combating terrorism, and I also get the fact that some people are still so blinded by the overwhelming support that he got for 9/11, which is a totally natural occurence after a disaster, happened after Pearl Hrbor for FDR, that they will turn a completely blind eye to the damage he has done to this country and what could happen to us, this country is not safer than before 9/11, if anything, it is in more danger after the invasion of Iraq because now everybody hates us, except Poland, can't forget Poland. If it were safer, than people would not still be testing the screeners by boarding planes with knives or guns and actually accomplishing this. I get the fact that George Bush has no concern for the lower class, the people who need the most help, because he is more concerned with giving multi-billion dollar companies a tax break for moving operations overseas. And this argument about how we wouldn't buy anything if it were made in America because of the prices with wages going up. Well, whats better, paying someone 10 cents to assemble something in Taiwan, and then have to pay a fortune to ship it over here, or paying someone 10 bucks an hour and pay next to nothing compared to importing to ship it. I'll take the latter, these companies don't care about us, they care about their next tax break, courtesy of the Bush family.
I could care less what church Bush goes to, just like I could care less how Kerry keeps a suntan, what I do care about are people being treated fairly, being treated like Americans in the country they were born in, being able for someone to worship freely no matter if I disagree with their religion and them not have to worry about being forced to worship in a way they don't believe in, I believe that an American has the right to love whoever they want and live with whoever they want, mainly because it is none of my dang business and nobody else's either and I believe that every American should have the right to be an American, without having to worry about being shot because someone doesn't like his color, or be able to get a job because someone doesn't like his color or buy a house because of his color. Unfortunately, this is a Utopia that will never be realized in this country, because bigotry and racism will never be vanquished, as long as there are people who could care less about anyone unless they have something to offer them.