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    Default Question about the draft???

    One of the Democrats/Kerry campaign's latest scare tactics is telling moms and college kids Bush will reinstate the draft. Bush looked directly into the camera during the debates and said it ain't so. I tend to believe him. An "all volunteer" army is the best you can field. But in the same debates, Kerry said (on more than one occasion) that he'd add two more divisions to the army. Recruitments, right now, are way down.........naturally. So far as I know, the Army is not turning down anyone that can pass the required tests. So how's Kerry going to get 40,000 or so extra bodies into the Army in 4 years without instituting a draft??

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    This has been cussed and discussed, but Kerry/Dems are using it as a scare tactic but when you read the bill it was a bill sponsored by the democrats. It also failed to pass. So, you're right, the only way Kerry can raise recruitment that much is to get it sponsored again and passed. But, as long as the republicans control Capitol Hill it's a dead issue.

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    This has been cussed and discussed, but Kerry/Dems are using it as a scare tactic but when you read the bill it was a bill sponsored by the democrats. It also failed to pass. So, you're right, the only way Kerry can raise recruitment that much is to get it sponsored again and passed. But, as long as the republicans control Capitol Hill it's a dead issue.

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    Once again, that bill in question, sponsored by Charles Rangel, was even voted against by himself. I read some other reasons for it in the paper today, one was trying to get support for the war down, there were some other reasons also, but I threw the paper away.

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    Default Re: Question about the draft???

    Yes, Kerry did very clearly state that he would increase the military numbers by 40,000!
    I caught that immediately and asked my wife " How does he propose to do that in an all volunteer armed forces?"
    This is why it is critical that people listen carefully and think before they cast their votes.
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    Actually fact of the matter is that the idea of a draft was brought about by democrats and shot down by the Bush administration. John Kerry is turning this around, and most people will not check this out, but it was actually Kerry and his people who supported the idea of a draft. Pretty sad how he is using that against Bush.

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    Actually fact of the matter is that the idea of a draft was brought about by democrats and shot down by the Bush administration. John Kerry is turning this around, and most people will not check this out, but it was actually Kerry and his people who supported the idea of a draft. Pretty sad how he is using that against Bush.

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    Is my keyboard working correctly? Go to factcheck.org and type in Draft Bill in the search engine, cause apparently you don't hear me when I tell you. That bill was brought up before the war, it wasn't intended as serious and noone has even pushed for it and the sponsor of the bill voted against the thing. Say what you want about Kerry talking about the draft or whatever, but quit bringing up this fictitious story about how the Democrats are pushing for it.

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    That bill was brought up before the war, it wasn't intended as serious and noone has even pushed for it and the sponsor of the bill voted against the thing.

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    So then, the Democrats were bringing a bill that they had no intention in passing. This is at best waisting time on the senate/house floor, blowing Millions of $$ on paper, clarical work, and the cost of thier salerys. And this is all being spent because they are trying to make a silly point.

    That's a party I want to support.

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    That bill was brought up before the war, it wasn't intended as serious and noone has even pushed for it and the sponsor of the bill voted against the thing.

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    So then, the Democrats were bringing a bill that they had no intention in passing. This is at best waisting time on the senate/house floor, blowing Millions of $$ on paper, clarical work, and the cost of thier salerys. And this is all being spent because they are trying to make a silly point.

    That's a party I want to support.

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    LMAO, get off it.........if you think that the democrats are the only ones who do this type of crap your one of those uneducated voters that shouldnt be voting. I watched a house republican preach about how you can buy the new Republican National Commitee calander online. politicians will do anything to make a point, just look at what a fillibuster stands for. Its the equivilant of a little kid screaming until they get there way.

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    So true carbonhunter. Pretty much all Congressman work 5% of the time and the other 95% they are politicking.

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    That bill was brought up before the war, it wasn't intended as serious and noone has even pushed for it and the sponsor of the bill voted against the thing. Say what you want about Kerry talking about the draft or whatever, but quit bringing up this fictitious story about how the Democrats are pushing for it

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    Sorry bud, it is a free world I will speak my mind and will not be told by you what to and not to say. As for the democrats sponsorship and support of this idea of the draft, I heard that on the NBC nightly news. Guess they are making it up.

    The issue here is that John Kerry is attempting to lead people to believe that George Bush will reinstate a draft. Kerry has in fact made remarks leading to this, dont tell me he has not, I watched the words come out of his mouth.
    George Bush has said he will not, and I personally dont believe he will.

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    That bill was brought up before the war, it wasn't intended as serious and noone has even pushed for it and the sponsor of the bill voted against the thing. Say what you want about Kerry talking about the draft or whatever, but quit bringing up this fictitious story about how the Democrats are pushing for it.

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    Quit bringing up the fictitious story about how the dems are pushing for it? What about Kerry quit pushing the fictitious story that Bush is pushing for it and admitting it was all a democratic joke to waste time and money to begin with and that he lied when he said Bush pushing for the draft. Even after the issue has been exposed for what it is he still says Bush is going to re-instate the draft. I guess, if the lie works, keeps using it.

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    [quoteLMAO, get off it.........if you think that the democrats are the only ones who do this type of crap your one of those uneducated voters that shouldnt be voting.

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    Nice personal attack carbonhunter. You must be young. Most older folks tend to have respect for another man's opintion, even if they don't agree.

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    As for the democrats sponsorship and support of this idea of the draft, I heard that on the NBC nightly news. Guess they are making it up.

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    And since when does anyone on here believe a story brought out by the "Liberal" media, only when it suits your purpose.

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    [quoteLMAO, get off it.........if you think that the democrats are the only ones who do this type of crap your one of those uneducated voters that shouldnt be voting.

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    Nice personal attack carbonhunter. You must be young. Most older folks tend to have respect for another man's opintion, even if they don't agree.

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    not attacking your personality im attacking a stupid comment, there is a differance. If i wanted a personal attack you would have gotten a PM.

    The first post pined to the top of this forum talks about sensitive people coming in here.
    I may be young but an older person would now how politicians are, and wouldnt make that statment about ohh well then thats the party i want my money going to!!!!!!!
    You left the door wide open for it.

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    And since when does anyone on here believe a story brought out by the "Liberal" media, only when it suits your purpose.

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    I watch the NBC nightly news about every night. Dont know that I ever said it was a "liberal" source of media.

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