Shuttin' Down The Nudie Bars

[wtnhunt]

Pretty sure most "dancers" do not report their income on their taxes if they even file. The government wants to regulate anything they can where they can draw more money. I personally do not think there are all that many involved in governement who are really genuinely concerned about doing what is right.

[buckee]

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I will have to go on disability and eat up every one elses hard earned tax dollars.

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What sort of disability allows someone to dance, but does not allow them to find another occupation ??
Hate to be the one to tell you this Ruby. But a stripper is a prostitute. You are selling your body as a visual fantasy.

[hutchies]

How many families do you think have been broken by Men coming into your bar? Prostitution and drug use does go on at these kinds of bars. When do you draw the line? They might still be coke snorting but they could always move to Nevada. What kind of disability or illness do you have Ruby? Tell me how many strippers report fully how much they truely make on their income taxes. I would bet that the lowest paid stripper still makes as much as I do a year at a full time job so do not expect me to feel sorry for any woman who choses to be a stripper.

[TreeStandBowHunter]

I think "Nudie" bars are good for troop morale JMO

[Andrea]

I think they should "obliterate the business".
The moral decline in this country is at an all time high. Have respect for yourself and get a respectable job. Period.

[bulldawg]

I frequented a few of those places when I was in the service. I'm not totally against them, but I don't go there anymore.
On the disability issue, I have arthritus throughout my body now, and have had a slightly herniated disc in my lower back for years. I am in bad pain everyday, and I still work 10 hour days. The government wouldn't give me a disability if I requested it. And, I sure wish I could dance like I used to, but it hurts way too bad for that. You need to buck up and get a respectable job, if they shut down what you are doing now.

[horst]

I see the word respectable being thrown around quite freely here and Im not sure I understand it exactly.Why is this country one of the few countries where people feel its immoral to show off your body?If a ladies not ashamed of her body and can make some money in the process of showing it wheres the respectable part come in?People in this country are so hung up about nudity its not even funny, and its a fact of everyday life, everyones gonna be naked at some point and everyones gonna see someone else naked at some point.You religous folks out there can maybe answer this for me, if God made us this way whats the problem exactly?was his purpose for everyone to be ashamed of thier bodies?Were taught from an early age in this country that your body should be covered up at all times, but if you were from a country where nudity was commonplace youd think nothing of seeing people naked.The only reason exotic dancing exists in the first place is because its socially unacceptable, if nudity were common place it wouldnt even be an issue.

[slugshooter]

Fayetteville, NC is sometimes called the strip club capital of North Carolina, that being said, I can count on one hand how many times I have been to one in town in the almost 10 years I have lived here, I went to a few when I was truck driver and I went to some when I was in the military on TDY. That being said, I would like to know where the drugs and prostitution are at that is so prevalent in this clubs as was stated before, because I have yet to see any, not saying it doesn't happen, but it is not as prevalent as the "moral majority" makes it out to be.

As far as Ms. Ruby being a prostitute, I feel thats a little harsh, there's a lot worse things that she could be doing and none of us here know what type of place she dances in, not every exotic dance club has dancers that go topless or fully nude. A lot of times girls find out that they can make more money dancing than doing anything else, many of them dance to support themselves while going to college so they can graduate and get a "respectable" profession. If she quit her job and started working at McDonalds and collecting government assistance while trying to go to school ya'll would lace into her for relying on government assistance and no working hard enough to get a better job. A lot of dancers make more money than those with college degrees and "respectable" jobs.

[buckee]

I can see it now. The world according to Horst

Everybody walking around naked, showing off their stuff ...LOL..and off course this would no doubt make sexual crimes cease to exist. What a wonderful
world this would be eh ....
Have you ever actually sat yourself down and wondered why this is not the answer .
God made woman pleasing all right, but he also wanted it to be something special between a man and a woman (husband and wife). Make the world a giant nudist camp and what do you have.....comic relief maybe. No thanks ..things are bad enough now, I think I'll pass.

[slugshooter]

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I can see it now. The world according to Horst

Everybody walking around naked, showing off their stuff ...LOL..and off course this would no doubt make sexual crimes cease to exist. What a wonderful
world this would be eh ....
Have you ever actually sat yourself down and wondered why this is not the answer .
God made woman pleasing all right, but he also wanted it to be something special between a man and a woman (husband and wife). Make the world a giant nudist camp and what do you have.....comic relief maybe. No thanks ..things are bad enough now, I think I'll pass.

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Weren't we all naked before Adam and Eve sinned Buckee, if you believe in Adam and Eve that is. Other countries have no problem with the naked human form being the norm, I haven't heard of an increase in rapes and sex crimes in Africa, or even Europe where people aren't so horrified at it.

I don't want people walking around nude by any means, mainly because I'm not gonna do it. But if you are raised that way, being nude doesn't mean anything to you, it's just a way of life for some people. If you are raised to believe it is wrong, then society as a whole will believe it, if society didn't assign nudity as something to be hidden, nobody would care. I'm still not gonna go to any nude beaches any time soon, but if I/we were raised in a society not to be ashamed of nudity, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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That being said, I would like to know where the drugs and prostitution are at that is so prevalent in this clubs as was stated before, because I have yet to see any, not saying it doesn't happen, but it is not as prevalent as the "moral majority" makes it out to be.


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Actually, I disagree with you slugs. You must of never been to Camp Lejeune area in J-ville. Matter of fact, all the strip clubs I been too had prostitution around it. Maybe not drugs but definatley hookers. I been around the world and have visited some strip clubs in my time and I must say...had I left the strip club not satisfied, I could of been satisfied pretty easy. I think strip clubs are a big military thing. When we go on deployments, usually you visit a stip club or too. Now of course not war but other odd and end deployments. That's why I say, strip clubs boost troop morale. I don't see anything wrong with them. If the women want to get up and show the world what they have, more power to them...and us Is it something we should do...no...but either is half the other stuff we do on a daily basis. My strip club days are over but I surely have visited my share. Clubs I been too in Thailand and Okinawa that would be banned in the US

I think this is a bad topic to have in the Realtree forum though. Only because of the kids that lurk in here and the bad thing about this topic is there is no way to word things so that the corn ears can't understand.

[buckee]

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Weren't we all naked before Adam and Eve sinned

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Yeah, ..I wish I had a dollar for everytime I heard that lame arguement. I suppose by saying this and then saying that we should revert back somehow to nudity, that we will be on our way to erradicating sin somehow. Is that what your saying ??

The sex crime rate in Africa is very high, along with other crimes as well. And the chances of catching a desease from having unprotected sex is extremely high there.
I don't even know why I posted in this dumb thread. The fact is that Adam and Eve did sin and sin is our heritage, apart from Jesus Christ. Everyone knows in their heart what's wrong with this picture.

[slugshooter]

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That being said, I would like to know where the drugs and prostitution are at that is so prevalent in this clubs as was stated before, because I have yet to see any, not saying it doesn't happen, but it is not as prevalent as the "moral majority" makes it out to be.


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Actually, I disagree with you slugs. You must of never been to Camp Lejeune area in J-ville. Matter of fact, all the strip clubs I been too had prostitution around it. Maybe not drugs but definatley hookers. I been around the world and have visited some strip clubs in my time and I must say...had I left the strip club not satisfied, I could of been satisfied pretty easy. I think strip clubs are a big military thing. When we go on deployments, usually you visit a stip club or too. Now of course not war but other odd and end deployments. That's why I say, strip clubs boost troop morale. I don't see anything wrong with them. If the women want to get up and show the world what they have, more power to them...and us Is it something we should do...no...but either is half the other stuff we do on a daily basis. My strip club days are over but I surely have visited my share. Clubs I been too in Thailand and Okinawa that would be banned in the US

I think this is a bad topic to have in the Realtree forum though. Only because of the kids that lurk in here and the bad thing about this topic is there is no way to word things so that the corn ears can't understand.

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The statement was about in the clubs, not around the clubs. There is plenty of prostitution around the clubs in Fayettnam, the hookers(male and female) make good money from Fort Bragg, but there is also plenty of prostitution in other parts of town where there are no clubs. Yes, strip clubs are good for troop morale, I'll give you that, even I need a little pick me up sometimes. Also, you mention being around the world, prostitution isn't looked down on in other parts of the world as it is here, Mexico for instance, I went into a bar in Nuevo Laredo, not a strip joint, just a bar, that had porno showing on TV's around the dance floor and the hookers lined up sitting on chairs against the wall. The only place you'll see that in the U.S. I guess is in Nevada, but I have been to some places in the U.S. where you coulnd't hardly get near the girls, and I've been to some where the only closer you could have gotten was to have been having intercourse with the girl. Can you guess which place I liked the most ?

[buckee]

I would think that pictures from home would be better moral than a strip club.

[slugshooter]

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I would think that pictures from home would be better moral than a strip club.

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What if you didn't have any home for pics to come from?