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    Watch this John Edwards interview, get what he determines a right or a privilege. How can internet access be a right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQFhdFfl6rM

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    It is a "right" because Al Gore invented the internet, don't you remember??

    What rubbish!
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    our constitution makes gun ownership a right. edwards makes it a privilege. remember that on voting day

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebeilgard View Post
    our constitution makes gun ownership a right. edwards makes it a privilege. remember that on voting day

    Amen!

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    Also remember that a government cannot "give" you rights. It can only restrict or take away rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebeilgard View Post
    our constitution makes gun ownership a right. edwards makes it a privilege. remember that on voting day
    That's it in a nutshell.

    Two little words "AIR HEAD" , come to mind. I don't know why, they just do ...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebeilgard View Post
    our constitution makes gun ownership a right. edwards makes it a privilege. remember that on voting day
    Actually, our Supreme Court is about to decide whether it's a right or a privilege. We all need to pray for their guidance to make the right choice in this pivotal case.
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    Gun ownership is a "right" depending on how the 2nd Amendment is interpreted, but in that context, that means that anyone could own a handgun, even criminals and mental cases, but since the 2nd Amendement is so broadly interpreted, it allows for states to restrict ownership to certain individuals, which makes it a privilege.

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    In that case, let's carry that logic over to the First Amendment. Your "right" to free speech, freedom of religion, etc. can then be regulated at the state or local level? I don't think so!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan_Til_I_Die View Post
    In that case, let's carry that logic over to the First Amendment. Your "right" to free speech, freedom of religion, etc. can then be regulated at the state or local level? I don't think so!!!
    Actually it can, hate speech is not protected, and neither is yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre. Public demonstrations are regulated, and if they get out of hand, they are shut down. Nothing in this country is truly free, if it were, then we would have anarchy, and not a republic.

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    Actually "hate speech" is constitutionally protected, but you're right when you say yelling "fire" isn't. But that is not really a good analogy, since your action could very well result in someone getting injured. I would say that yelling "fire" equates to recklessly discharging a firearm, which is, of course, against the law. Whereas free speech equates to the ability to own a firearm. And owning a firearm, in and of itself, poses no threat to anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan_Til_I_Die View Post
    Actually "hate speech" is constitutionally protected, but you're right when you say yelling "fire" isn't. But that is not really a good analogy, since your action could very well result in someone getting injured. I would say that yelling "fire" equates to recklessly discharging a firearm, which is, of course, against the law. Whereas free speech equates to the ability to own a firearm. And owning a firearm, in and of itself, poses no threat to anyone.
    Unless the hate speech is inciteful, then it is not protected. True, a firearm sitting on a table is not threat to anyone, but the owning of a firearm poses a threat if said owner is a lunatic, either immediate, or in the future.

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    True, a firearm sitting on a table is not threat to anyone, but the owning of a firearm poses a threat if said owner is a lunatic, either immediate, or in the future.
    If said owner is a lunatic, many things aside from firearms could be a threat to anyone.
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    The government removing a sane, law abiding citizen's RIGHT to own a firearm for self defense equates to the government's removing of a person's tongue so that they CAN'T yell fire, even if there is one.
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