Are the churches going gay or what?

[TreeStandBowHunter]

What is with this state. Is everybody gay up here that churches and everything else has to support the gay and lesbian community up here in Mass.

Look, I am a Christian (or should I say I believe), I am probably not a good role model for one but anyway, this is the latest scoop from TSBH

Alright, my wife is a good Christian...unlike me...so I try to take my family to church every Sunday. Well, we found a what I thought nice church right up the road from us. It is a Methodist Church. Today we went and it was nice and we liked it...only until I discovered thier beliefs. They say that they welcome EVERYBODY including " any Sexual Orientation". So after the service one of the ushers asked us how we liked the service and me being a smart *** that I am, I asked him if I was reading this right and he said I was. I then said "Well, that is surely good to know". He must of guessed that I am against it so he said "we do not discriminate against anybody" and I then said "well I will not put my kids around something like that because I do not want him to think that it is OK because it is not". That was pretty much the end of the conversation but we were then certainly the outcast after that. I know this probably happens in all states but this state has got to be the worst with this stuff.

[fisherguy]

LMBO that must have been quite the sight to see...i mean the look on your wifes face. Oh, and i love the title of this thread. lol Sounds like quite the state you are living in, guess you should call aroung to the churches before next sunday. For some reason i don't think you will be too shy to ask their stance on the subject. Good luck finding a normal church, there must be at least one in the state.

[buckee]

Are you sure you didn't take it the wrong way ??

It is one thing to welcome the gay community into the church to hear what the bible has to say about what they practice, and possibly be converted, but a totally different thing to welcome them into the church and then hiding the truth in God's word about what they do and accepting their sexual orientation with open arms.
The Bible talks about the apostacy (falling away from sound doctrine) of the churches, in the last days. Could this be what we are witnessing in this day and age ??
I left one of the churches I used to attend, because they were planning on ordaining, "practicing" homosexuals as ministers. Now I can understand and accept the ordaining of a converted homosexual to the ministry, but not a practicing one. A minister is supposed to be beyond reproach. If he is a practicing homosexual, he is far from being beyond reproach.

This is what I believe, with Gods word as my back-up

[TreeStandBowHunter]

Buckee, I need to take someone to Logan INT...when I get back, I will quote what the paper says. I understand about a converted one and everything but I really don't think thats what they meant. They welcome EVERYBODY. I will type it on here later tonight for you all to read and tell me what you think.

Ok, I am off to Boston-Logan...I wonder how many gay folks I will run into there

[johnf]

We have some friends that just joined our Southern Baptist church after their new paster at the Methodist church turned out to be a lesbian. It was not a closet case, it was very open. When they talked to the people in charge (not sure who that is in a methodist church) They said that the methodist church did not discriminate when it came to their pasters. I know if that is happening here in the bible belt then it's probibly the same everywhere else.

Personally I don't think they should be allowed to preach, teach or have any leadership role in the church. But they should be taught the truth so that they can be "saved" and repent. That won't happen if you don't allow them in the door. I don't believe a person who has a relationship with Christ can live that lifestyle and not be completely miserable.

[Shaun_300]

i was in church one sunday, right after the government up here proposed that they accept homosexuality, and we had a guest priest in at the church (i am roman catholic btw) and he started talking about how much homosexuality is wrong. he really started to get frustrated on the topic, and at one point was raising his voice against it. the regular priest was sitting in his chair... thankfully, because i think he would have fainted if he was standing, he had the " " look on his face lol. i was really astounded that a priest would talk that open about the subject. but anyways, there was a "couple" two pews behind our family... i can pick a gay guy out of a crowd and i thought that they may have been gay. i heard them start to talk out loud, then all of a sudden they jumped up in the middle of the homily and stormed out of the church!! they were POed lol. i think our regular priest was ready to strangle the guest priest

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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Are you sure you didn't take it the wrong way ??



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OK Buckee and everybody else, this is quoted from their program. Tell me if you think I took it the wrong way. READ THE WHOLE THING CAREFULLY...

" RECONCILING & WELCOMING STATEMENT: The United Methodist Church is a community of believers and seekers, with differences in age, class, nationality, gender, marital status, sexual orientation, abilities and limitations. We at Sudbury United Methodist Church recognize that there are attitudes, concerning these diverse characteristics, which violate the integrity of individuals and deny the richness of God's creation. Therefore we affirm our welcome to all people into our community of faith. We are comitted to be a fellowship in which all persons feel a part of our family, enabling them to grow in thier faith, to be fed our fellowship, and to contribute thier talents to the life of the church in its worship, programs, and outreach. We call the church and society to be sensitive to all persons and to advocate programs which attempt to ensure justice for all.

Now what in the heck do you call that crap. Pretty much what I get out of it is that we are supposed to be sensitive to queers. Do you still think I took it the wrong way

[fisherguy]

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Pretty much what I get out of it is that we are supposed to be sensitive to queers.

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LMBO that was subtly put. The way i read it anyway is that they welcome everyone and accept everyone and their beliefs. So yes i would say you interpreted that correctly...though i may have phrased it a bit differently.

[Steven]

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Umm, I don't think it's TSBH taking anything the wrong way, it's the people he's supposed to accept that "take it the wrong way", if you know what I mean.

[Shaun_300]

LMBO @ Racksie
I know what ya mean

TSBH - i would have inturpretted (sp?) that paragraph the same way as you man. makes ya wonder eh??

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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[fisherguy]

oh geez, you like to keep buckee busy don't you? I am sure there are one or two things he might want to change. lol

[Steven]

I'm tired off Buckee and his happy go lucky lifestyle up there on the island. We need to give him some gray hairs.

[Tominator]

Geez, why do I wander into the political forum?

Well, some of you know my views on homosexuals, if you don't, well, let's just say I'm not homophobic and I try not to pass judgement on anyone, including homosexuals.

I come at this topic from a different perspective I guess, because I think my brother was gay. He never "came out of the closet," but he had feminine qualities, and hung out with some dudes that were definitely out of the closet.

Having said that, I think some of us need to be more tolerant of gays. I'm sure some gays are out there flaunting it and being lecivious, but there's plenty of straights out there like that too. Just because someone's gay doesn't mean they will be out there trying to convert the world or will be pedophiles. There's good and bad gays just like there's good and bad straights.

I've been taught that God is an all-loving and all-forgiving. Philosophically speaking it just seems to me that God will not condemn a person because they're gay.

I know this will fall on some deaf ears, but it's how I feel.

[buckee]

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RECONCILING & WELCOMING STATEMENT:

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"RECONCILING" here is another word for "Giving you what your itching ears are dieing to hear"

No...I don't think you took it the wrong way Mike.