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    Default Free Speech is the next thing on the chopping block

    Since when does the government decide who we should listen to? Censorship is here....

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    Pretty ridiculous for the dcc committee to launch that petition. To me kind of reinforces the idea that they know no boundaries.

    Actually seems hypocritical to me that they think they have the right to petition such, unfortunately some folks will not realize what it is that they are signing up for when they sign that petition.
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    Two things. One, censorship has been here a long, long time my friend. Two, when the next online petition actually accomplishes something it will be the first time one ever has.

    Paranoia inhibits growth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nativetexan View Post
    Since when does the government decide who we should listen to? Censorship is here....

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...rush-limbaugh/
    In this case, I absolutely agree. Its one thing for someone acting strictly as a private citizen to advocate listening to, or not listening to, a particular show. But its something else entirely when a major political party, especially the party that has total control over the FCC and other regulatory agencies, starts telling US citizens who to listen to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muggs View Post
    Two things. One, censorship has been here a long, long time my friend. Two, when the next online petition actually accomplishes something it will be the first time one ever has.

    Paranoia inhibits growth.
    Paranoia is a fear of something which could happen. How can I be paranoid of something happening when it has already happened? Now, I am not scared of it because I am doing my part to counteract it. You contradicted yourself.

    Example..

    The British might be coming!...Paranoia
    The British are coming!...Fact/Fear/Courage/Patriotism
    The British are here!...Now lets kick ass. <---I am here.

    I wouldn't be so bold as to say that I know it all about online petitions...Almost certainly, I cannot be everywhere at once. To assume you know is really arrogant, and complacent. Keep it up! You continue to drive my point home...


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    Quote Originally Posted by nativetexan View Post
    Paranoia is a fear of something which could happen. How can I be paranoid of something happening when it has already happened? Now, I am not scared of it because I am doing my part to counteract it. You contradicted yourself.

    Example..

    The British might be coming!...Paranoia
    The British are coming!...Fact/Fear/Courage/Patriotism
    The British are here!...Now lets kick ass. <---I am here.

    I wouldn't be so bold as to say that I know it all about online petitions...Almost certainly, I cannot be everywhere at once. To assume you know is really arrogant, and complacent. Keep it up! You continue to drive my point home...

    So, since "this has already happened" you can no longer listen to Rush Limbaugh? He comes on the air here in 14 minutes.

    When you say things like "free speech is the next thing on the chopping block" that shows your believe that at least one other thing has already been put on the "chopping block." Yet you have no proof or factual information that anything has been "put on the chopping block."

    You also say "since when does the government decide who we should listen to?" Did you actually read that article? That petition is merely to "express outrage" towards Limbaugh and signing it is "telling Rush what you think of his attacks on President Obama." Nothing in it is telling you who you can or cannot listen to or impeding on any of your rights in anyway for that matter. It may be a ridiculous waste of time...but wasting their own time is not illegal.

    btw- As defined by Webster's (please pay special attention to the 2nd definition: Paranoia...

    1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations

    2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others

    Me talking is indeed helping to prove your point, and that is you don't have one.
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    How is Rush's statements/expressions of Obama, which are being publicly criticized, any different than the statements/expressions liberal media made about Bush over his run for and eventual presidency? It is a double standard when the liberals cry to their mommas that someone is picking on them!!!!!


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    Remember guys...after every Socialistic...er...Democratic......president there was a Republican elected after him...after Jimmy Carter...there was Reagan...and that is a comforting thought! Obama is going to mess up BIGTIME and we are going to usher in a new era of Sarah Palin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotashRLS View Post
    How is Rush's statements/expressions of Obama, which are being publicly criticized, any different than the statements/expressions liberal media made about Bush over his run for and eventual presidency? It is a double standard when the liberals cry to their mommas that someone is picking on them!!!!!

    It's not. It's exactly the same, and that petition is the typical liberal crying.

    But that's not the issue here. The original poster is saying our freedom of speech is going to be taken away. That's simply not true. That's all I'm saying, and if your ego boundaries will allow you, and you're committed to being honest with yourself, you have to admit that too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gobblerbane08 View Post
    we are going to usher in a new era of Sarah Palin!
    That would be great, because she's obviously qualified. (tongue planted firmly in cheek).


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    Quote Originally Posted by muggs View Post
    It's not. It's exactly the same, and that petition is the typical liberal crying.

    But that's not the issue here. The original poster is saying our freedom of speech is going to be taken away. That's simply not true. That's all I'm saying, and if your ego boundaries will allow you, and you're committed to being honest with yourself, you have to admit that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muggs View Post
    That would be great, because she's obviously qualified. (tongue planted firmly in cheek).
    More qualified than any "community organizer", my friend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by muggs View Post
    So, since "this has already happened" you can no longer listen to Rush Limbaugh? He comes on the air here in 14 minutes.

    When you say things like "free speech is the next thing on the chopping block" that shows your believe that at least one other thing has already been put on the "chopping block." Yet you have no proof or factual information that anything has been "put on the chopping block."

    Hey, you were the one that said censorship is already here. "Yet you have no proof or factual information that anything has been put on the chopping block."

    You also say "since when does the government decide who we should listen to?" Did you actually read that article? That petition is merely to "express outrage" towards Limbaugh and signing it is "telling Rush what you think of his attacks on President Obama." Nothing in it is telling you who you can or cannot listen to or impeding on any of your rights in anyway for that matter. It may be a ridiculous waste of time...but wasting their own time is not illegal.

    Do you understand what this leads to? When members of government speak out against someone who is exercising their right to free speech and "express outrage," what do you think the public is going to do who follow those particular members of government? Members of government have no business doing such things. Honestly, it is whining, but it is also a form of censorship because the government wants Rush to not say such things and is encouraging the public to follow in their path.

    btw- As defined by Webster's (please pay special attention to the 2nd definition: Paranoia...

    1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations

    2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others

    What's to be suspicious about? It's right there in front of me. Nor did I feel like I was being irrationally suspicious or distrustful. I don't sit in the corner and suck my thumb scared to death of Uncle Sam. What I do is push to have those people who choose not to follow the Constitution canned from making any decision on the future of this country.

    Me talking is indeed helping to prove your point, and that is you don't have one.
    Nope, my point is that you don't read into things and are perfectly happy with what you are fed. I'm not going to tit for tat with you over this either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nativetexan View Post
    Nope, my point is that you don't read into things and are perfectly happy with what you are fed. I'm not going to tit for tat with you over this either.

    Dude...coming from a guy who tows the conservative line. I actually took the time to read into this situation and presented the facts. I don't give credence to any one side of the line and if I can I'll expose the hypocracy of both- and there's plenty of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gobblerbane08 View Post
    More qualified than any "community organizer", my friend!
    Where did I say Obama was qualified?

    Would you agree that his leadership skills are far superior to those of Sarah Palin?


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