OK ALL YOU POLITICAL KNOW IT ALLS

[TreeStandBowHunter]

Answer this. Why are we messing with Iran again. Is GW trying to repeat Iraq???...but yet we have Korea flat out telling us they have/or are making nukes? Whats the deal here. GW might want to take a look at the Military situation before he makes any moves. JMO

[Norm Sauceman]

GW is not the only one who is messing with Iran...We are not the only ones dealing with North Korea either (6 nations I believe right now including Japan and China) Iran is a state that harbours Terrorists and terrorists are a direct threat to the US.. North Korea is a more direct threat to Japan and China than to us...

This is only my opinion though.. Iran has so many sanctions against them it is not funny and we are working to inpose many more... but I would not rule out military action if needed...

I know... I get hammered with it all the time... WELL THEN MR. SMARTY.. LET'S SEND YOUR SON THERE THEN,...

Then my answer is... OK.. but I would like the opportunity first to go, but seeing as I could not, if my son needed to go, then that would be how it was... We can not sit around and be complacent when these radicals find new and more devistating means of killing Democracies... I don;t think it would be the same as I feel about going into Afghanistan and Iraq, it would be a bit different circumsatnces as far as I am concerned..why, you ask??

I felt Afghanistan was a direct response to 9/11.. I felt, although it was not stressed as much as WMD's, that Saddam and his radicals were murdering thousands upon thousands of the Iraqis with no reguard for suffering or anything.. He needed to be stopped. Just as Hitler needed to be stopped.. Iran and North Korea are different.. they are bullies upon the whole world in they flaunt nuclear power and intent as a tool to get financial and other means of support from the other countries of the world..then when they need more..they do it all over again.

This has been going on with NK for as long as this dictator has been in power. It has been on and off in Iran with the changing of the latest faction to take over the country.

This is not nor should be construed as FACT.. This is the way old Norm sees it...

[TreeStandBowHunter]

Ya know Norm, thats probably the best answer I will receive on this too.

[fisherguy]

I think the biggest difference between Iran and Iraq is that the citizens of Iran as a whole are more fanatical and do not want to be "liberated". Afghanistan went fairly well, Iraq...well it is slowly getting there, Iran i think would be complete disaster. Why? 1. Your military is worn out. 2. Public suport: I really doubt there would be much of that for an invasion of Iran(either within the States or outside). 3. It would even further polarize the middle east against the west and lead to more Anti-americanism there which would in turn lead to more danger of terrorism.

What should be done...i really don't know. Obviously something, but i do not think war is the way to go.

[GWSmith]

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Answer this. Why are we messing with Iran again. Is GW trying to repeat Iraq???...but yet we have Korea flat out telling us they have/or are making nukes? Whats the deal here. GW might want to take a look at the Military situation before he makes any moves. JMO

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TSBH...Dude....Please leave me out of this...LOL
I'm still trying to remember what day is my wifes birthday I'm in enough trouble

[wtnhunt]

Great response Norm. Pretty well agree with everything Norm has to say here. Hope military action is not needed in either place.

[James7xChamp3]

Why do we as Citizens think we know everything about World affairs because of what we read in the papers and hear on the news?????

If we all know what our President and our Military leaders knows, I think we would be in big trouble!

I am confident that Mr. Bush among others has had to bite their lips and just shake their heads of what has been said and written the last 4 years.

We know what THEY want us to know which isn't much. In reality we know very little about a lot of things. I guess it's fun and exciting to pretend we do though. It sure puts lots of money in the Media folks pockets!

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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Why do we as Citizens think we know everything about World affairs because of what we read in the papers and hear on the news?????

If we all know what our President and our Military leaders knows, I think we would be in big trouble!

I am confident that Mr. Bush among others has had to bite their lips and just shake their heads of what has been said and written the last 4 years.

We know what THEY want us to know which isn't much. In reality we know very little about a lot of things. I guess it's fun and exciting to pretend we do though. It sure puts lots of money in the Media folks pockets!

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Yeah, your right. What would I know or even have the right to know or think. I mean it isin't like I been to Iraq and been shot at by the little arabs or anything right? I mean it isin't like I am part of this Global War On Terror or anything right? I am just a normal everyday citizen?

[carbonhunter]

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Why do we as Citizens think we know everything about World affairs because of what we read in the papers and hear on the news?????

If we all know what our President and our Military leaders knows, I think we would be in big trouble!

I am confident that Mr. Bush among others has had to bite their lips and just shake their heads of what has been said and written the last 4 years.

We know what THEY want us to know which isn't much. In reality we know very little about a lot of things. I guess it's fun and exciting to pretend we do though. It sure puts lots of money in the Media folks pockets!

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Yeah, your right. What would I know or even have the right to know or think. I mean it isin't like I been to Iraq and been shot at by the little arabs or anything right? I mean it isin't like I am part of this Global War On Terror or anything right? I am just a normal everyday citizen?

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Ahh Mike...i was going to save you the time but ya beat me to it.

I dont know what to say about Iran. Bush has to know that we cant do anything right now.....we are streatched way to thin. I'm not so worried about Iran as I'am about NK, Hussain was an Insain freak....but a dumb insain freak. NK has a very very smart insain freak, there news release this week couldnt have been timed better. IMO Bush is putting his foot in his mouth right now. Kinda like a big hold'em game NK keeps trying to force the hand. We have kinda set the table for him though. First we label them in the axis of evil, along with Iraq. We go into Iraq and now Kim can claim self defense. Im not trying to get into the past but this is a problem with starting
this Pre-emptive strike stuff.

That said I think Bush is smart enough to know that we wood have a long up hill struggle in NK without a pretty good aliance.

I also think NK can be contained and strangled. He dosnt have crap for money a fight on his soil would be tough, but if you force them to come out than they can be beat.

[TreeStandBowHunter]

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Why do we as Citizens think we know everything about World affairs because of what we read in the papers and hear on the news?????

If we all know what our President and our Military leaders knows, I think we would be in big trouble!

I am confident that Mr. Bush among others has had to bite their lips and just shake their heads of what has been said and written the last 4 years.

We know what THEY want us to know which isn't much. In reality we know very little about a lot of things. I guess it's fun and exciting to pretend we do though. It sure puts lots of money in the Media folks pockets!

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[Gator]

Norm gave a pretty good answer. here is my take on N Korea. There are WAYYYYY to many countries in that area that do NOT want N Korea to possess nuclear weapons. I think that we will "use" those countries in an effort to get N Korea to "tame down" their Nuclear program. Every stinking year N Korea does SOMETHING like this in an attempt to get outside help in one form or another, almost like blackmailing the rest of the world.

Iran, I don't know what to think of them. Personally we need to finish what has been started in Afghanistan and Iraq and "rebuild" our military before even messing with them.

[OJR]

I agree with Gator in regards to NK! They have been pulling this crap since the Korean war, so it is nothing new. What is new is they now have the nuclear bombs. The big and I mean BIG thing is that China and Japan are really keeping a very close watch on them. China didn't always do this. In fact, China armed and helped them during the Korean war! Different time and situation now.

In regards to Iran, I really believe that Israel is going to do something about them. You must remember, the people want to get rid of the hard line religious rulers but don't dare to do anything because they will end up in prison or worse. Iran is going to be in real trouble once Iraq settles down a bit!

[horst]

Ok but heres the question, do we have the manpower right now to even be looking at Iran?TSBH knows more about this then I do but I was under the impression were already stretching ourselves pretty thin.There might be a time to go into Iran but we aint dumb enough to try it this soon are we?Maybe Im wrong, weve got everything over there now, no sense hauling it all back home just to take it back over Im only half joking, maybe their thinking the same thing in the white house

[popgun]

Just say I had a lot of coyotes killing the deer in my friends hunting area. So I was hunting coyotes on their turf and had already killed quite a few, running low on ammo, and wanted to go back to the truck and call off the rest of the evenings hunt.
I only have 2 shells left but there are still a lot of coyotes following me to the truck.
I may not be able to wipe them out if they were all to attack me at once, but I sure would be watching them closely on my way out of the woods.

This is sort of how I look at Iraq, and it's neighbor Iran.

Maybe this isn't such a good example but.................. ,,,,,popgun

[Strut_Buster]

N.Korea can have all the nukes they want for self defense. Cause if they cause a ruckus over there they will have China, japan, and The south to answer to. I say we just pull our Troops and Flyers out and move them into afganistan and Iraq. That is were the worlds hotspot is now, no longer korea.