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Old 01-22-2006, 10:43 PM
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This is why politics and religion DO mix.

With the nuclear situation in Iran, it is entirely feasable that Isreal would want to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iran before they have full nuclear capabilities. This would send the middle east into a frenzy. Russia, who provides most of the the middle east with military equiptment would want to stabilze the situation. The most logical way for them to do this would be to form an aliance with the Muslem states and attack Isreal. No Isreal=peace in the middle East.

This is where we have the biblical situation. Russia is in the biblical region of Gog while a unified middle Eastern uniion is Magog. This is straight out of the book of Revilations. Gog and Magog join forces to attack Isreal and are destroyed by God in the mountains before reaching Isreal.

For those of you who don't belive the bible, this shouldn't matter. For the rest of us, this is a very................anxious time.

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Old 01-23-2006, 03:21 AM
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read the bible again, Gog and Magog come after the 1000 year millenium. Armageddon comes first and that's where God comes and destroys the enemies of Israel
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Old 01-23-2006, 08:56 AM
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That's an interpritation along with post tribulation rapture, yet another interpritation I don't agree with, not fact.
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Old 01-23-2006, 09:31 AM
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So what you are saying johnf is that you don't take the bible literally? Do you pick and choose which you choose to take literally and agree with? I am just wondering because I have seen numerous arguments on here about literal interpretations vs. non-literal and how others on here are made to feel un-Christian or told they are atheists because they don't believe and agree with 100% of what is in the bible.
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:15 AM
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No I'm talking about interpreting the same thing literally in two different ways. It's like two people seeing the same thing happen and taking away two different ideas.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:35 AM
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Apart from the Biblical references, I'm going to say that your premise of no Israel = peace in the Middle East is incorrect. Those are undoubtedly the most bellicose group of people on the planet. If Israel isn't there, they'll still find plenty of reasons to fight each other and the West.
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:39 AM
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But that is what they see as the reason for most of their actions at present.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:14 PM
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So..... whose book is right? Those that follow the Koran... or those that follow the Bible?
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Old 01-23-2006, 06:23 PM
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So..... whose book is right? Those that follow the Koran... or those that follow the Bible?

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The bible of course.
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:15 PM
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remember, that neck of the world has not seen a 10 year period of peace since jesus walked the earth
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:38 PM
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The Koran was written by a schizophrenic, child molester named Mohomid who wrote it when he awoke from eppileptic seisures. The Koan took the beginning of the bible and some of the teachings of Christ, added to them and perverted them into a book that teaches hate, death and redemption through murder.

To put the Koran and the bible on the same plain is ignorant at best.
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The Koran was written by a schizophrenic, child molester named Mohomid who wrote it when he awoke from eppileptic seisures. The Koan took the beginning of the bible and some of the teachings of Christ, added to them and perverted them into a book that teaches hate, death and redemption through murder.

To put the Koran and the bible on the same plain is ignorant at best.

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Then there are those that state that the Bible is nothing but a book of Jewish folk tales! That Christians tried to conquer the world to MAKE people adhere to their beliefs! The Old Testament teaches that war is the way to heaven.

It's all in the manner of interpretation.
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:36 AM
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The Old Testament teaches that war is the way to heaven.


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No it doesn't It does however show us how God established law through some battles that he sanctioned.
There is no promise of eternal bliss in the old testament, concerning war or killing anyone.
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For those of you who don't belive the bible, this shouldn't matter. For the rest of us, this is a very................anxious time.

Opinions, comments welcome.

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We as christians need not be anxious. But in all things seek God's will and rest in the truth that God has won and no matter what things look like he is in charge. And even if we are killed we will be with him. Remember we are just passing through this earth on our way to eternity.
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For those of you who don't belive the bible, this shouldn't matter. For the rest of us, this is a very................anxious time.

Opinions, comments welcome.

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We as christians need not be anxious. But in all things seek God's will and rest in the truth that God has won and no matter what things look like he is in charge. And even if we are killed we will be with him. Remember we are just passing through this earth on our way to eternity.

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Well, as Christians, shouldn't we be anxious to get to Heaven and see God?? I think that is what johnf meant. Not to be worried, but be........anxious!!
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