Tip of the week

[jcwa]

Sometimes you get to fool coyotes only once. Whether one comes in and detects you, or even if you make a kill, the rest of the pack has been educated.

Always wait a minimum of two weeks before hunting the same area again. Changing your calling helps. If I bagged a coyote using a rabbit in distress call, the next time I will change to another type, such as coyote pup distress or a fawn in distress.

[archerjg]

That's good information as we have all kinds of coyotes down where we farm now.

Archerjg

[too_pointer]

Thanks for the tip, I am taking this all in!
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[strubedog]

I have much to learn if I start varmint hunting, keep the tips coming.

[jcwa]

Originally posted by INFIDEL:
well; thats not correct really. For the most part, coyotes are not a pack animal per se,

<font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are right, but you are also wrong. Coyotes form loose family groups, not tight family packs like wolves. These groups may form for short periods, then break apart as food supply allows. When in large groups, they may occassionally work together to attempt to catch a deer or other large prey.

Originally posted by INFIDEL:
As far as using a different call after killing one of the pair....nonsense, you can go right back the next day if you like and most likey kill the other coyote with the same sound.

<font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's possible but highly unlikely that you will call up the same coyote. Most likely if a coyote is called up the next day with the same call, it will be a different coyote that has worked his way into the area.

[sureshot]

What I got out of it was that if you call in 8 coyotes and only get 3 you will be better off to try a different call the next time becouse the other ones that responded and were not killed are educated! There is so much truth to that!!!!!! That is why when you get new calls don't get the same one every person in you area is using!
I do not know but up here it is not uncommon to have 4-5 even 8 come in at once, I know for a fact that the ones that were called and not shot will very likly not come in to the same call the next day!
I also see you point infidal I have one little spot that I call every time I go by, its a high spot on a lake with lots of brush, there is not many time si get skunked there, with my trusty old scotch bellows call! But I am pretty sure that the reason is becouse they travel the lake bottom for miles looking for food, thus its always different yotes that I call in!

[jcwa]

Originally posted by INFIDEL:
95% of the coyotes I shoot are dead, not educated.

<font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What about the other 5%??? If you shot a missed, they are educated.

Originally posted by INFIDEL:
I use primarily one call, out of the many I have, cottontail distress, it just keeps on working. If changing calls makes you feel better, ok, but to the ole coyote, It dont make squat.

<font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So are you saying that a coyote does not know the difference between a rabbit distress and a fox pup distress. I have had coyotes look an area over and not want to come to a rabbit distress but when I changed tapes to a coyote pup distress, they stop looking and start running to the call. So it dont make squat, I think changing tapes to a different distress sound does make a squat.

[TD]

Coyote are not as dumb as you think,,,,,,studies show they are very smart animals,,,,,well i guess the one's in Arizona are stupid because yotes here in Texas are pretty darn smart,,,,,,,If you call with the same call every time they Will get call shy and you would be lucky if you kill more than 1 or 2,,,,,oh i for got YOU HUNT WITH DUMB COYOTES

[jcwa]

But didn't I see a post were you said changing tapes during a calling sequence
would not make a difference. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I may not be a master when it comes to howling, but I do know the difference between a bark, challenge howl or a lone howl. A good experienced coyote hunter can tell what mood a coyote is in by how he is barking or howling, and use their experience to bark or howl in away that the dog would be attracted to, and come to investigate. Isn't that the whole reason behind calling, get the dog to come to you. I use a howler about 30% of the time because it works for me. Just because you may or may not use a howler or a call that everyone else uses does not make it wrong or nonsence. What works, works and what doesn't, doesn't.

[sureshot]

All I will say is I am sure that coyortes can tell differnt calls from one another! If Iam in cottontail country trying to use a jackrabbit call, I know from experiance that no coyotes or very few will respond, and vice versa! 2 falls ago I tried to call this area of 54 quarters of land that looked great and looked like jackrabbit country! I called for a day and a half with no responces, then I talked with the rancher and he said he has not seen a jack in years its all cottontails, I got my primos cottontail and got 5 that afternoon!
I do not claim to know it all on coyotes and have learnt more than I can imagine form jcwa in the past couple years! But i do know a bit more than the average, seeing i get over 100 of the furry buggers in 3-4 months a year!
I love this sport and I love this site, there is no sence in calling what someone else does nonsence! If you do not agree just say so, don't say thats they are full of crap! I know the coyotes in my area better than I know my own wife and I know "in my area" different calls work better at different times!
Seeing you get 95% of your coyotes you must be a great coyote hunter, I would say I get about 60%, I get about 95% that are within range, but there are a few I miss, But there is always some that get spooked at 400 yards for some reason, there are some that wind me, there are some that just come in and sit back at 500-600 yards and see what the comotion is about! All these coyotes "in my area" will be very warry the next time they hear that same call! I believe the reason that some just sit back is becouse they have a feeling and have heard the call before! I have brought these coyotes in by changing from my rabbit call to a fawn bleet! They come from a sitting position to a full run instantly! I wonder why that is??
Some people swear by a bird call, i have tried it for years with hardly no luck, you don't see me telling them that it is nonsence becouse I know better!! I would say I have tried it with no luck up here! Glad to see you are having good luck!!
Lets just stop running other peoples ideas down ant try to help other varmet hunters! That is why we are here in the first place right?